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Andy Freeland
10-17-2012, 04:19 PM
http://www.nfhs.org/recordbook/Records.aspx?CategoryId=1

A list of all the high school football records. This site will not be of any interest to a sane, rational person. I, on the other hand, find it fascinating.

A few things to check out:

Search on the name of Ken Hall, who played for Sugarland HS (TX) in the 50s and still holds the career rushing record (over 11,000 yards) as well as quite a few other records, including yards/carry in a single game (520 yards on 11 carries). Check out Hall's wiki page if you've never heard of him, possibly the greatest HS football player ever.

A few NFL greats that still show up on the list: Billy Sims, Emmitt Smith, Herschel Walker, Max McGee and, believe it or not, Red Grange.

Quite a few current players like Peyton Manning, Toby Gerhart, A.J. Green, Knowshon Moreno.

A few baseball players: J.R. House, Jermaine Dye, Don Gullett.

Perhaps the most shocking stat I found: JaMarcus Russell had 7362 career rushing yards.

Bengals1181
10-17-2012, 04:21 PM
I'm not sure I've ever even noticed there's an "Other Leagues" forum.

Rich Gapinski
10-17-2012, 04:29 PM
Well, my productivity just went to zero. Also, awesome to see former Reds and Yankees lefty Don Gullett on this list. Gullett has the highest win percentage in Reds history for guys with a minimum of 100 decisions. After dominating the Yankees in the 1976 World Series, they signed him. Gullett lost his two post-season starts in 1977 for the Yankees and was horrible. I think he gave up something like ten runs in one game.

I love Don Gullett. Always secretly a Red, I say. Did what he could to derail the Yanks.

Rich Gapinski
10-17-2012, 04:35 PM
I guess they don't teach punting well in Michigan. Three separate times, a kid blocked 4 punts in a game in Michigan.

Andy Freeland
10-17-2012, 04:36 PM
Well, my productivity just went to zero. Also, awesome to see former Reds and Yankees lefty Don Gullett on this list. Gullett has the highest win percentage in Reds history for guys with a minimum of 100 decisions. After dominating the Yankees in the 1976 World Series, they signed him. Gullett lost his two post-season starts in 1977 for the Yankees and was horrible. I think he gave up something like ten runs in one game.

I love Don Gullett. Always secretly a Red, I say. Did what he could to derail the Yanks.

I think he's still the only pitcher to start game 1 of the world series in 2 straight years for 2 different teams ('76 Reds, '77 yankees).

Gullett was a legendary high school athlete in Kentucky. Aside from scoring 11 TDs in a single game (take that Al Bundy), he also scored 50 points in a basketball game.

Rich Gapinski
10-17-2012, 04:48 PM
I think he's still the only pitcher to start game 1 of the world series in 2 straight years for 2 different teams ('76 Reds, '77 yankees).

Gullett was a legendary high school athlete in Kentucky. Aside from scoring 11 TDs in a single game (take that Al Bundy), he also scored 50 points in a basketball game.

Cliff Lee did for the Phillies and Rangers in 2009 and 2010, but I do think they are the only ones.

Rich Gapinski
10-17-2012, 04:52 PM
Koy Detmer is tied with a couple guys for 4th with 44 completions in a game. Nice to see the God of Neck Beards on there. I wonder how thick it was growing in back then. He probably would look like a yeti when he didn't shave for three days at the age of 4.

Andy Freeland
10-17-2012, 05:23 PM
Highlands HS (where Cris coaches) has the 2nd most wins in the history of HS football. I didn't know that until today.

Last year Highlands scored 849 points, 4th most all-time. The team that they knocked down to #5 is Big Sandy, TX 1975. Aside from scoring 829 points, that Big Sandy team had 11 shutouts, still tied for 5th most all time, and only gave up 15 points all year. Their offensive star was future Dolphin David Overstreet, defensive star was Lovie Smith.

Docta
10-17-2012, 05:31 PM
Their offensive star was future Dolphin David Overstreet, defensive star was Lovie Smith.
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Fred Taylor's son Kelvin has about 9,500 rushing yards right now, but I don't see him anywhere on there.

Andy Freeland
10-17-2012, 06:33 PM
Fred Taylor's son Kelvin has about 9,500 rushing yards right now, but I don't see him anywhere on there.

I would guess that they only put someone on the list after their career is over, but that's just a guess.

Glad you brought this up, I didn't know anything about Taylor until your post. Looks like he's either 15 or 1500 yards from Ken Hall's all-time record. Florida has him listed at 11,217 career yards, but the NFHS has him at 9673. The difference being that the NFHS only counts grades 9-12 and Kelvin Taylor ran for over 1500 yards as an 8th grader. He wasn't playing against other 8th graders, he was playing high school football in the 8th grade. When I was in the 8th grade I was 4'3" and could run 40 yards in just under 72 hours.

Rich Gapinski
10-17-2012, 06:43 PM
It's also pretty amazing how easy it is to forget things. I had to look at the list to remember the sad story of Ben Mauk. So many records or near records there and then he had his arm destroyed early in his career. I think it was against Syracuse.

mkocs6
10-17-2012, 07:26 PM
It's also pretty amazing how easy it is to forget things. I had to look at the list to remember the sad story of Ben Mauk. So many records or near records there and then he had his arm destroyed early in his career. I think it was against Syracuse.

I'd forgotten about that, too. Those Kenton teams threw the ball all over the place.

mkocs6
10-17-2012, 07:54 PM
I've seen most of the teams from northeast Ohio on this list play: Massillon, Canton McKinley, Steubenville. In addition, I've seen Kenton (as you might guess from the above comment), Piqua, Fostoria, and Berwick (PA). All are great, historic programs, obviously. Probably a few others that have some sort of individual record holder, too. One of my regrets after living two years in Lubbock is that I never made the couple-hour drive to Midland or Odessa to see a game at Lee or Permian.

They have Massillon Washington listed as 24-time Ohio State Champions. Interestingly, if I remember the banner on the press box at Paul Brown Stadium correctly, they only claim 22 there. Incidentally, they haven't won one since Ohio stopped awarding state titles based on a newspaper poll and set up a playoff, so it's not like they've won two while I wasn't paying attention. I believe they also claim 9 'national' titles, if memory serves.

My only real connection to this list is on the coaches lists. About halfway down the active and all-time coaches lists, you'll see the name Chuck Kyle at 290 wins through 2011. The closest I got to the field was the student section, but he was my freshman English teacher at St. Ignatius High School. I've been to a lot of St. Ignatius games. After looking it up out of curiosity, I can report that the school's all-time record is 637-282-32 through last season, and so was seven wins behind the last school (Dover, OH) included on the All-Time Wins List.

mkocs6
10-17-2012, 08:14 PM
Forgot to mention Youngstown Cardinal Mooney coach Don Bucci. The program produced Bob Stoops and Bo Pellini. I got to see them in person about a decade ago. Seriously, they ran maybe four plays, but it must have worked if the guy won 306 games.

Augie Bossu is another Cleveland legend on this list. He was the coach of Benedictine about the time dad was born and retired when I was eight.

Obviously, there are tons of great coaches on this list. I recognize some of the other Ohio towns, too, that went deep into whatever division of the Ohio playoffs. But seriously, some guy from suburban New Orleans is 510-51-6 and he's only been coaching since 1969? And I knew Concord De La Salle had won 153 games in a row, but Bob Ladouceur is 384-25-3? Wow.

Andy Freeland
10-17-2012, 08:53 PM
Speaking of coaches, the reason I went to the site in the first place was to verify the Bengals info about A.J. Green's ranks in all-time catches, yards and TDs (good thing I did, they were inaccurate). I noticed that Green's coach, John McKissick (Summerville, SC) is the winningest coach in HS football history with 593 wins. He coached at the same school from 1952 until he retired last year.

Rich Gapinski
11-12-2012, 04:19 PM
Not sure how playoff games are counted in all-time records, but this happened in North Carolina.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/grier-n-c-qb-sets-national-marks-10-113150599.html

wxwax
11-12-2012, 08:21 PM
Not sure how playoff games are counted in all-time records, but this happened in North Carolina.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/grier-n-c-qb-sets-national-marks-10-113150599.html

I didn't think there was enough time in a game to score 184 points. That's nuts.

Docta
11-17-2012, 12:40 AM
Alabama bound RB Derrick Henry broke the national HS rushing record tonight. 11,254 yards with one game remaining. Also holds the record for consecutive 100 yard games with 45.

Update on Kelvin Taylor. Now ranked 5th nationally with 10,314. There's no way he'll pass Henry at this point.