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ScottDCP
12-05-2012, 11:26 AM
I don't think it is, in and of itself, a bad move. I love the Jets getting worse every day. If it were my team, however, I would only question the way it was handled. Ryn gets a lot more mileage out of an emphatic statement right after the game or on Monday than he does by saying it will take him time to figure out. Everybody knows he and the other players don't want Tebow playing QB. Can't say I blame them. And they have had McElroy for a couple years, so should have some idea of his ceiling (hint, it's the deep out.)

Now there isn't much he can do right now to get a legit starting QB beyond signing Jeff Garcia, so his best bet probably is Sanchez. He just did the guy no favors in his handling of the situation.

This is the teammate and leader:

http://gifs.gifbin.com/012011/1295896107_Mark-Sanchez-wipes-a-booger-on-Mark-Brunell_.gif

And this is the passer:

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1597123/sanchezlol.gif

Curtis
12-05-2012, 11:38 AM
Sanchez is terrible and seems to be getting worse. He is the AFC version of Romo, over-hyped early on and it's been joe average ever since. It's a 'what you see is what you get' kind of situation. That way I see it, Rex is keeping Sanchez in as a showcase for other teams. McElroy looks like the 2013 Jets QB.

hobbes27
12-05-2012, 12:28 PM
Sanchez is bad, but honestly he is their best option at this point. I like McElroy, but as a backup. He's not the future of the Jets. Nor is Tebow. I suspect the Jets will try to find a better option in 2013 (although with the draft being horrible for QBs and the so so free agent market, I'm not sure where that will be.) If they can't find a better option, they might have to just suck up another year of Sanchez, especially with the bonus that he is getting. As I've said before, Sanchez is regressing, but he doesn't have a lot to work with either. So its not completely his fault.

Trumpetbdw
12-05-2012, 12:40 PM
This is all well and good, but then why did they get Tebow? That's what I don't understand. If he's not healthy, and he hasn't been, that's one thing, but if he is, at this point, I'd think they'd have to give him a shot just because they actively pursued putting him on their roster for this exact purpose.

ScottDCP
12-05-2012, 12:42 PM
As I've said before, Sanchez is regressing, but he doesn't have a lot to work with either.

I will disagree there. He has enough. When their offense has been bad, it has usually been bad passing more than drops. He only does well against passive defenses. I will admit Shonn Greene appears to have been a flash in the pan, but they really just have a below average QB. Three good receivers, though the best is a superflake and needs to go. Good TE, OK RBs. Good line. Adds up to one group being a bigger weakness than the res,t and that is QB.

wxwax
12-05-2012, 01:13 PM
This is all well and good, but then why did they get Tebow? That's what I don't understand. If he's not healthy, and he hasn't been, that's one thing, but if he is, at this point, I'd think they'd have to give him a shot just because they actively pursued putting him on their roster for this exact purpose.

I think there may be a disconnect between the front office and the coaching staff. Between Tebow not playing, Ryan's negative comment about Stephen Hill (since justified) and Woody Johnson going out of his way to praise Tebow -- I have a feeling ownership and GM see things one way and Ryan sees them another. If that's the case, then it would be smart for him to leave.

Curtis
12-05-2012, 01:18 PM
The bloody booger was the best pass Sanchez ever made.

ScottDCP
12-05-2012, 01:42 PM
I think there may be a disconnect between the front office and the coaching staff. Between Tebow not playing, Ryan's negative comment about Stephen Hill (since justified) and Woody Johnson going out of his way to praise Tebow -- I have a feeling ownership and GM see things one way and Ryan sees them another. If that's the case, then it would be smart for him to leave.

Check.

Trumpetbdw
12-05-2012, 02:36 PM
I think there may be a disconnect between the front office and the coaching staff. Between Tebow not playing, Ryan's negative comment about Stephen Hill (since justified) and Woody Johnson going out of his way to praise Tebow -- I have a feeling ownership and GM see things one way and Ryan sees them another. If that's the case, then it would be smart for him to leave.

The only reasonable explanation. If you remember to Hard Knocks, it seemed they were clearly all on the same page. It appears that the dynamics of the front office, coach relationship have changed significantly since that show. Otherwise, it makes no sense whatsoever.

Is it possible Rex is scared that Tebow comes in and they start winning, much like Denver last year? That always came across as John Elway's worst nightmare, and ultimately led to Denver showing Tebow the door.

hobbes27
12-05-2012, 02:39 PM
I will disagree there. He has enough. When their offense has been bad, it has usually been bad passing more than drops. He only does well against passive defenses. I will admit Shonn Greene appears to have been a flash in the pan, but they really just have a below average QB. Three good receivers, though the best is a superflake and needs to go. Good TE, OK RBs. Good line. Adds up to one group being a bigger weakness than the res,t and that is QB.

Three good receivers? Where? I see one at best. Cromartie wasn't far off at the beginning of the year when he said that he could play receiver for this team. Good TE? Keller is a servicable TE, nothing special. Their OL is okay, but its getting progressively worse. Other than Mangold and Ferguson, everyone is replacable.

The offense was much better 2 years ago. But in the NFL, age can kill you. And that's part of the Jets' problem. The other problem is that Tannebaum has no clue what he is doing.

ScottDCP
12-05-2012, 03:25 PM
Kerley and Schilens. I hadn't noticed that Holmes is no longer on the active roster.

ScottDCP
12-05-2012, 03:25 PM
And the difference between a good o-line and an average one is slim. Mangold and Ferguson tip the average performance of the unit to good.

hobbes27
12-05-2012, 04:08 PM
So you are telling me the only thing holding the Jets from the playoffs is Sanchez? I don't buy it.

ScottDCP
12-05-2012, 04:13 PM
This year? yes. He hath sucked the big one.

ScottDCP
12-05-2012, 04:18 PM
I expected Buffalo to be better, but they have sucked, too. If the Jets get comoetent qb play 75%of the time they are 7-5 or so. Instead they have entrusted their team to a jackhole who cannot stand up to Holmes and cannot be trusted to throw the ball witgin ten feet of his receivers.

packa7x
12-05-2012, 05:24 PM
Sanchez has played like trash this year. When you QB needs that much help, he's just not that good. Tell me who RGIII, Tannehill, or Wilson has that's a ton better than Sanchez? Yet I'd take all 3 over Sanchez.

Amy
12-05-2012, 09:34 PM
Kerley and Schilens. I hadn't noticed that Holmes is no longer on the active roster.

Santonio has been on IR since like Week 4. He got hurt either the week before or week after Revis. The other WRs the Jets have are ok, but they don't scare anyone.

Amy
12-05-2012, 09:45 PM
This year? yes. He hath sucked the big one.

I have to disagree that Sanchez is the only reason the Jets are not a playoff team this year. While QB play is a factor, there are other ones:

1. They have no running game.
2. They have no impact WR or TE since Holmes got hurt.
3. The linebacking corps is older, and slower, and not playing as well.
4. No Revis. This is the key factor. Rex's D with the Jets has been based around Revis erasing one player on the other team's O, usually the best WR they have, and then apply pressure with his exotic rush schemes. While Cromartie has played well this year, he can't do that. As a result, they have to put more people in coverage, which means less pressure, which, in turn exposes the slower LBs more often against TEs and short passes.
5. Mike Tannenbaum did nothing to improve the offense this past off season, as Revis himself pointed out in the preseason.

So, while Mark Sanchez has not had a good season, he's only one of the issues they have. If they add a playmaker or two on O, and get Revis back, I think they're back in the mix next season. If they fire Rex, which would be dumb, then that might change.

wxwax
12-05-2012, 09:53 PM
Firing Rex might be a good thing for Rex, tho, if he's out of step with his bosses. I would imagine he'd get a nibble from a few needy teams.