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06-24-2014, 07:55 AM
AJ McCarron in position to learn from Andy Dalton, Jason Campbell
Cincinnati Bengals quarterbacks Andy Dalton (14) and AJ McCarron (5) wait for their turns during practice on June 10, 2014, in Cincinnati. (AP Photo)

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AJ McCarron is in a place where he can learn and grow as he moves from collegiate star atAlabama (http://www.al.com/alabamafootball) to NFL quarterback with Cincinnati, Bengals offensive coordinator Hue Jackson said. Cincinnati selected the 2013 Heisman Trophy runner-up in the fifth round of the NFL Draft last month. With starter Andy Dalton and veteran Jason Campbell on the roster, Jackson said McCarron doesn't have to take the reins of the team, but instead would get the time to "understand the National Football League."

Jackson appeared as a guest on the Sirius XM NFL Radio program hosted by Jack Arute and Brad Hopkins over the weekend. Dalton has been the Bengals' starting quarterback since joining the team from TCU for the 2011 season. But Jackson said quarterbacks are rare who can become successful as NFL starters right out college.

"There have been some really good young quarterbacks who have matriculated into the National Football League and have played,"Jackson said (http://blog.siriusxm.com/2014/06/23/hue-jackson-andy-dalton-and-a-j-green-best-tandem-in-football/), "and kudos to those guys because I think very few can do it. We have one in Andy Dalton. ...

"AJ McCarron is a hard-working young man who is learning our system, learning how we do things. I think he's getting his feet wet. He doesn't have to be that guy who has to step into the forefront right away because we have a veteran quarterback who we feel very good about. It is a place for him to learn, to grow and really understand the National Football League."

Since leading Auburn (http://www.al.com/auburnfootball) to an undefeated record in the 2004 season, Campbell has started 79 games for four NFL teams, giving the Bengals a veteran voice in their quarterback meetings, Jackson said.

"AJ obviously comes from Alabama, a tremendous program, had a great career there, and I think he's working hard to learn how we do things, how we run our system, and, you said it best, Andy can somewhat mentor him," Jackson said (http://blog.siriusxm.com/2014/06/23/hue-jackson-andy-dalton-and-a-j-green-best-tandem-in-football/). "But there's also Jason Campbell in that room, who has more experience than any of them, who's seen a lot of different defenses, a lot of different blitzes and played against a lot of different coordinators. So he kind of offers them a whole different perspective that's something Andy hasn't had. So I think he's able to help them.

"But at the end of the day, I think all those guys are really working hard in order to establish where they are. I mean, every day you've got to go out and compete, and that's the beautiful part about that room right now. I think all three guys are doing that."

McCarron wasn't allowed to throw during Cincinnati's early workouts after the draft because of "arm tightness (http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/06/aj_mccarron_expected_to_throw.html)," but was rounding into form by minicamp.

In response to a reader's question, Coley Harvey of espn.com (http://espn.go.com/blog/cincinnati-bengals/post/_/id/8703/bengals-aj-mccarron-mailbag-take-rookies) seconded Jackson's observation that McCarron was working hard: "One thing that also impressed me was the amount of work he regularly put in after practice. After Monday's OTA, he walked back in the locker room a good 30 minutes after practice concluded.

That's not a surprising trait, but one I definitely took notice of. That post-practice work reminded me of another quarterback I covered when I was on the beat covering Florida State: the recently transferred and current Alabama quarterback Jacob Coker. While they didn't overlap at Alabama, Coker and McCarron did play together in high school. Maybe they just teach that post-practice work ethic in Mobile, Alabama."

Coker was the quarterback for St. Paul's in 2009 and 2010, following McCarron in that position for the Saints.

The Bengals open training camp on July 23.

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Arkansas Bengal
06-29-2014, 04:34 PM
So I just finished watching AJ in the 2014 Sugar Bowl...damn, he DOES remind me of Andy Dalton :(

06-30-2014, 08:26 AM
I maintained all through the run-up to the draft, for those who were looking for a different type at QB than Andy, that McCarron and Murray (the two most frequently mentioned as post round-2 possiblities) were just going to be more of the same.

06-30-2014, 08:35 AM
I maintained all through the run-up to the draft, for those who were looking for a different type at QB than Andy, that McCarron and Murray (the two most frequently mentioned as post round-2 possiblities) were just going to be more of the same.

I wouldn't say that's a bad thing. More of the same with maybe more ball control isn't such a bad thing.

It was a crappy draft for QB's. It was deep, but deep with mediocre wild cards. McCarron and Murray were probably two of the safest guys in the draft. They may just not have as high a ceiling as say a Kaepernick type.

06-30-2014, 08:50 AM
I am not a Dalton "hater" (whatever that is), so I don't necessarily think it is a bad thing either. But for the crew who wanted something anything "different than Andy" - McCarron isn't it. Very similar quarterback.

06-30-2014, 08:58 AM
The disconnect I guess is I'm not in the "different than Andy" group.

I'm in the "like Andy, but more consistent".

I know I'm in the minority these days, but I think there's a lot to like about Dalton's game. Cut down on the turnovers, many of which are his fault many that are not, and there's not much to dislike about him. The arm strength argument is overblown, he's accurate, a good leader, and has good command of the offense and the mental side of the game.

06-30-2014, 09:53 AM
At Alabama, McCarron was a game manager. Didn't make any spectacular throws, wasn't quick with his feet, but he didn't make a lot of dumb decisions either.

You basically know what you are going to get from McCarron. So there isn't a huge risk, which means not a high ceiling or floor.

Arkansas Bengal
06-30-2014, 11:56 AM
I had watched some of the Alabama games this (last?) year so I had seen McCarron play, but when I watched the repeat of the Sugar Bowl game, I pretty much focused on him. What I saw looked exactly like Dalton:

- he connected on a long bomb (which was underthrown, forcing the receiver to slow down to make the catch)
- he had a pass batted down at the line
- he threw a couple of INT's (one not his fault, the other forced into double coverage)
- when he was pressured, he was unable to connect while throwing on the run

I then watched the last regular season game when the Bengals played Baltimore (yeah I was having football withdrawal symptoms this weekend). Dalton looked just like McCarron--balls batted down, underthrown long passes, unable to complete a pass when flushed from the pocket, etc.

I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like we drafted a Dalton clone to be our future backup.

07-04-2014, 08:10 AM

video in the link

Watch AJ McCarron's 'Rookie Confessional'


In training camp, Cincinnati Bengals rookie quarterback AJ McCarron (http://topics.al.com/tag/AJ%20McCarron/index.html) wants to show his new teammates "I'm here to work," and he hopes his play will continue to be characterized by ball protection.
McCarron took part in the NFL Network's Rookie Confessional video series during the 17thannual NFL Rookie Symposium last week in Aurora, Ohio. The players responded to the prompts "proving yourself at training camp," "best part of new city," "goals for rookie season" and "can't wait to play against ..."

About his goals, McCarron said: "I just want to take care of the football like I've always done. One of the biggest stats I pride myself on is I've thrown 24 interceptions throughout my whole high school and college career. So I only threw 15 in college, and I pride myself a lot on that. I feel like we've got a great team and as long as we don't turn the ball over, we're in a great situation in Cincinnati to win."
A former St. Paul's prep star in Mobile, McCarron was drafted in the fifth round out ofAlabama (http://www.al.com/alabamafootball) by the Bengals on May 10. Cincinnati has four quarterbacks on its preseason roster, with McCarron joining three-year starter Andy Dalton, veteran Jason Campbell of Auburn and second-year player Matt Scott. The Crimson Tide won two BCS national championships with McCarron at quarterback, and he finished second in the Heisman Trophy balloting as a senior.


07-09-2014, 07:08 AM
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07-28-2014, 09:28 AM
AJ McCarron testing shoulder in throwing program for Cincinnati Bengals

AJ McCarron (5) watches as Andy Dalton warms up at the Cincinnati Bengals’ training camp on Thursday, July 24, 2014, in Cincinnati. (AP Photo)

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When the Cincinnati Bengals opened training camp on Thursday on the practice fields at Paul Brown Stadium, two bedsheet banners fluttered (http://www.foxsports.com/ohio/story/nfl-cincinnati-bengals-notes-andy-dalton-not-worried-about-contract-072414) from a highway overpass nearby. One read: "Don't sign Dalton. He (stinks)." The other read: "A.J. to A.J. The future is now."
The banners were removed (http://www.foxsports.com/ohio/story/nfl-cincinnati-bengals-notes-andy-dalton-not-worried-about-contract-072414) by team employees.
They referred to the Bengals' incumbent quarterback, Andy Dalton, who is entering the final season of his four-year rookie contract, and to Cincinnati's fifth-round draft pick, quarterbackAJ McCarron (http://topics.al.com/tag/AJ%20McCarron/index.html) of Alabama (http://www.al.com/alabamafootball), and its star receiver, A.J. Green.
Fans will have to wait for AJ to A.J., though. McCarron has not practiced with the team during training camp after being placed on the active/non-football injury list (http://www.cincyjungle.com/2014/7/21/5923919/cincinnati-bengals-place-nine-on-pup-and-three-on-nfi) last week.
On Saturday, McCarron threw on the side as he tries to overcome a shoulder problem.
After Saturday's practice, Geoff Hobson, the editor of Bengals.com, Cincinnati's team web site, reported (http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Camp-report-depth-charge-on-third-down/12d8797f-f646-4220-afc2-4436227f0ade)McCarron "is on an extended rehab throwing program that may determine if he's headed to injured reserve or the roster. The early signs seem to be good. He threw for the second time Saturday and appeared to have pretty good juice from 40 yards."
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McCarron is still on the Bengals' 90-player active roster, but he can't participate in full-team practices until he's cleared from the active/non-football injury list.
McCarron didn't throw in the Bengals' early OTAs because of what was reported as "arm tightness." But he was passing at Cincinnati's minicamp June 10-12.
McCarron was a prep star at St. Paul's in Mobile who went on to become Alabama's career leader in completions, completion percentage, passing yards and touchdown passes. He finished second in the balloting for the 2013 Heisman Trophy.
Former Auburn (http://www.al.com/auburnfootball) running back Onterio McCalebb (http://topics.al.com/tag/Onterio%20McCalebb/posts.html) also was put on the active/non-football injury list l (http://www.cincyjungle.com/2014/7/21/5923919/cincinnati-bengals-place-nine-on-pup-and-three-on-nfi)ast week by the Bengals. But he was cleared in time to start practicing when training camp opened. His problem was listed as "knee." Now a cornerback, McCalebb spent last season, his first as a professional, on Cincinnati's practice squad. He's beenreturning kickoffs (http://www.cincyjungle.com/2014/7/25/5938695/onterio-mccalebb-adam-jones-unseat-brandon-tate)at training camp.
The Bengals return to practice on Sunday afternoon as they prepare for their preseason opener. Cincinnati visits the Kansas City Chiefs on Aug. 7.


07-28-2014, 09:36 AM
I think this guy is going straight to IR and we are running with two guys this year. He may get some pre-season snaps, but he won't be on the regular season roster.

07-28-2014, 10:03 AM
we'll see. I can't see them putting him on the practice squad. And if they don't get a deal done with Dalton, I can't see them hiding McCarron on IR where he won't get any snaps at all.