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Andy Freeland
07-09-2010, 10:28 PM
Interesting article on si.com about scouting QBs out of college:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/john_lopez/07/08/qb.rule/index.html

He calls it the 26-27-60 rule. The gist is that successful QBs generally get at least 26 on the Wonderlic, have at least 27 starts in college and complete at least 60% of their passes. Strikes me as retrofitting stats. Probably more useful in what has been true than what will be true. Of this year's top 4 QBs, only Bradford made the grade, literally. The other 3 all scored less than 26 on the Wonderlic. But buried at the bottom of the article he points out that Favre and McNabb also came up short on the Wonderlic.

Colts01
07-09-2010, 10:57 PM
Wonderlick scores of current and former Nfl qbs...
1. Ryan Fitzpatrick 48

2. Alex Smith 40

3. Eli Manning 39

4. Matt Stafford 38

5. Tony Romo 37

6. Aaron Rodgers 35

6. Matt Leinart 35

8. Tom Brady 33

9. Matt Ryan 32

10. Matt Schaub 31

11. Philip Rivers 30

12. Matt Hasselbeck 29

12. Marc Bulger 29

12. Brady Quinn 29

15. Mark Sanchez 28

15. Peyton Manning 28

15. Drew Brees 28

18. Josh Freeman 27

18. Joe Flacco 27

20. Carson Palmer 26

20. Jay Cutler 26

20. Kyle Orton 26

23. Ben Roethlisberger 25

24. Jason Campbell 23

25. Brett Favre 22

25. Tim Tebow 22

25. Chad Henne 22

28. Bruce Gradkowski 19

29. Vince Young 15

30. Donovan McNabb 14

30. David Garrard 14

Unknown: Matt Cassel, Matt Moore

Top quarterback prospects in 2010 NFL draft

Sam Bradford, Oklahoma 36

Colt McCoy, Texas 25

Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame 23

Tebow 22

Other Wonderlic scores of note:

Brian Griese 39

Drew Bledsoe 36

Steve Young 33

John Elway 29

Chad Pennington 25

JaMarcus Russell 24

Mark Brunell 22

Trent Dilfer 22

Michael Vick 20

Daunte Culpepper 18

Dan Marino 15

Randall Cunningham 15

Jim Kelly 15

Terry Bradshaw 15

Chris Leak 8

article source/link
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/wonderlic-scores-of-2010-nfl-starting-quarterbacks-and-339905.html

Andy Freeland
07-09-2010, 11:15 PM
Dan Marino 15
Randall Cunningham 15
Jim Kelly 15
Terry Bradshaw 15


Myth busted.

DaBearsFan
07-09-2010, 11:18 PM
I'm a big reader of Football Outsiders, and they've had something similar to this for a long time. I think it's something like 30+ starts and 60% completion percentage in college and you are drafted in the first 2 rounds is a good sign for success. I'll see if I can find the article.

EDIT: Article is here http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2006/college-quarterbacks-through-prism-statistics . The people are out of date but the data still has a lot of significance, in my opinion. Also, it's 37 starts, not 30

Colts01
07-09-2010, 11:20 PM
I'm a big reader of Football Outsiders, and they've had something similar to this for a long time. I think it's something like 30+ starts and 60% completion percentage in college and you are drafted in the first 2 rounds is a good sign for success. I'll see if I can find the article.

Yea the guy from football outsiders is on Simmons podcast from time to time,he seems to know his numbers very well

Colts01
07-09-2010, 11:22 PM
Myth busted.
Ryan Fitzpatrick 48--Myth Busted heh...He went to harvard I think though.

BuckeyeRidley
07-09-2010, 11:29 PM
WOW Colts! Thanks for posting those! Very interesting!--I wonder what Peyton's was? I'm sure he aced it.

Colts01
07-09-2010, 11:44 PM
Peyton's was 28..Eli's was a little higher

Wordsworth
07-10-2010, 12:04 AM
Bill Parcells has four rules for drafting QBs out of college. They are as follows, with his reasoning:

(courtesy of SmartFootball)

1. He must be a senior, because you need time and maturity to develop into a good professional quarterback.
2. He must be a graduate, because you want someone who takes his responsibilities seriously.
3. He must be a three-year starter, because you need to make sure his success wasn’t ephemeral and that he has lived as “the guy” for some period of time.
4. He must have at least 23 wins, because the big passing numbers must come in the context of winning games.

He doesn't even consider a guy unless they meet these requisites.