• At least these guys identified themselves

    An article in today's papers featured some interesting content.

    There was a joint statement from Brady, Manning and Brees as follows:
    "We believe the overall proposal made by the players is fair for both sides, and it is time to get this deal done."

    The responding statement from NFL spokesman Greg Aiello was as follows:
    "We share the view that now is the time to reach an agreement so we can all get back to football and a full 2011 season. We are working hard with the players' negotiating team every day to complete an agreement as soon as possible."

    Washington Post writers Mark Maske and Mark Jones had opened their article with this:
    "Full negotiating teams for the NFL and the locked-out players reconvened Wednesday in New York, seeking the elusive finishing touches on a deal to end pro football's shutdown.
    An agreement in principle is likely to be completed between Friday and next Tuesday, barring further complications.

    Looked pretty good until we got to that "barring further complications" part.
    Is this hope or just another posturing contest?

    Comments 13 Comments
    1. KabaModernFan's Avatar
      I think it has to be hope. Would Brady, Manning, and Brees really put their name on a statement like that unless they were sure a deal was coming to an end soon? I don't see why they would put their credibility out on the line like that without proper faith that a deal is on it's way.
    1. SpartaChris's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by KabaModernFan View Post
      I think it has to be hope. Would Brady, Manning, and Brees really put their name on a statement like that unless they were sure a deal was coming to an end soon? I don't see why they would put their credibility out on the line like that without proper faith that a deal is on it's way.
      Yes, and here's why. Florio has been nailing it recently.

      It is believed that all the positive press lately has been coming from the side of the owners in an attempt to put pressure on the players to make a deal. If the rank and file start getting excited over the prospects of having football, they'll likely lean on their leadership to just sign a damn deal already.

      Brady, Manning and Brees releasing this statement is essentially turning the tables back on the owners. Put the pressure on them to agree rather than the other way around.

      At least that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
    1. GoBigOrGoHome's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by SpartaChris View Post
      Yes, and here's why. Florio has been nailing it recently.

      It is believed that all the positive press lately has been coming from the side of the owners in an attempt to put pressure on the players to make a deal. If the rank and file start getting excited over the prospects of having football, they'll likely lean on their leadership to just sign a damn deal already.

      Brady, Manning and Brees releasing this statement is essentially turning the tables back on the owners. Put the pressure on them to agree rather than the other way around.

      At least that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
      This is just an attempt to manage the perceptions of both the rank and file of the NFL as well as we the fans.

      Nothing but smoke here.

      Gawd, this is getting old.

      Deal time?

      Deal time.
    1. FrzzerBwler's Avatar
      Yeah and I've decided I'm going to start dating super models,,,,,
      "barring further complications"
      Like the fact I'm middle aged and over weight, surely just a minor complication.

      Kaba I do not see the risk to Manning, Brady and Brees. If talks break down they can just blame the owners. They bnelieve they presented a fair offer.
      With the gag order only the players and owners know if it is a fair offer.
    1. ReaderM's Avatar
      Once again, I'll believe a deal when I see it, No longer falling for the hype until Pen meets paper and Training Camps have started
    1. Colts01's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by ReaderM View Post
      Once again, I'll believe a deal when I see it, No longer falling for the hype until Pen meets paper and Training Camps have started
      This.
    1. SpartaChris's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by ReaderM View Post
      Once again, I'll believe a deal when I see it, No longer falling for the hype until Pen meets paper and Training Camps have started
      Yup. Just tell me when there's a deal and it's signed and set in stone. I'm exhausted otherwise.
    1. Dave Lapham's Avatar
      My first reaction was....if the Mount Rushmore of the NFL and plaintiffs in a suit vs. the league comes out with this statement.....how close are both sides to making a deal? When these 3 QBs "speak" people listen. Of course they think the players have made a fair offer to both sides and a deal should be forthcoming. I think it was just a response from the players to the 500# marketing gorilla called the NFL putting out information theat is designed to put pressure on the players to make a deal. It was the players attempt to counter those efforts.
    1. bluestree's Avatar
      This kind of back and forth is typical of a labor negotiation. I think it is reasonable to put a positive spin on where things are at. The information leaking out about the meetings is a stream, but not a torrent, so you can conclude that the parties are keeping much of the information they are sharing close, and that signals care is being taken not to screw things up.
      If there was no progress, there would be more posturing, more leaks and ad hominem attacks from the fringe. Like the debt ceiling talks.
    1. theGimp's Avatar
      Yeah, I agree with most of the comments above. The hard deadline seems to be Tuesday the 21st so both sides are angling to get a few more small gains before the end comes. If no deal is ready for the owners meeting next week both sides start losing money at $200 million a week and the fans and media screech horribly. Real damage to the NFL Brand starts to accumulate at that point. Up to now this will all be a distant after thought at this time next year.
    1. brauneyz's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by KabaModernFan View Post
      I think it has to be hope. Would Brady, Manning, and Brees really put their name on a statement like that unless they were sure a deal was coming to an end soon? I don't see why they would put their credibility out on the line like that without proper faith that a deal is on it's way.
      These 3 Stooges lost all credibility when they put their names on the lawsuit in the beginning. That's my story and I'm sticking with it!
    1. GoBigOrGoHome's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by brauneyz View Post
      These 3 Stooges lost all credibility when they put their names on the lawsuit in the beginning. That's my story and I'm sticking with it!
      But you'll still root for Brady and your Pats, right?
    1. BuckeyeRidley's Avatar
      They Need to have urgency on both sides as there's a Bad Feeling about this thing being done in time to have a decent Preseaon not to mention the Training Camps and Free-Agency. There's still a lot of work ahead but at least there's some real progress that pushes this thing in the right direction.
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