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  • Should Denver keep Manning & Tebow?

    These two QB's are at opposite ends of the spectrum. With the signing of Manning, Denver has a very important question to answer ... do we keep Tebow? Here are a few thoughts on why you keep Tebow and why you don't.

    Why you keep Tebow
    a) Manning's health is not 100% and he will be 36 this season
    b) Who better than Manning to have your young future QB learn from
    c) Puts Tebow-mania in your pocket but accessible at any time
    d) Takes away the possibility of having egg on your face if Manning gets hurt and Tebow succeeds elsewhere
    e) Gives you great diversity in the Red Zone
    f) Tim Tebow's jersey is the #1 selling jersey in the NFL

    Why you don't
    a) Make this 100% Peyton's team
    b) Move on from Tebow-mania
    c) Locker room could be split
    d) Not enough time to prepare two different styles of offense
    e) Get another draft pick
    f) Removes the pressure from Elway and Fox to play Tebow down the road
    g) Gives team back some cap room to sign more FA's

    What do you think Denver should do and why?

    Comments 48 Comments
    1. Trumpetbdw's Avatar
      I think they should keep him. The key is b). Tebow is a sieve, extremely coachable, and I think he'd be receptive to learning everything he could from Manning. Tebow will never be a perfect passer, but it's hard to imagine he wouldn't improve greatly from Manning's leadership. Tebow is a galvanizing leader on the field, and with his proven willingness to work at his craft, Manning can help direct him in that regard as well.

      The other reasons why you keep Tebow are also valid.

      I would actually dispute reasons why they wouldn't keep Tebow. When Manning signs, it's nearly impossible to imagine that it wouldn't be 100% his team. I'm still not sure why they'd need to move away from Tebow-mania, and I don't see the locker room being split. The Manning brand will sell as well in Denver as the Montana brand sold in KC 20 years ago.

      Would they really need to prepare 2 different styles of offense? Wouldn't they just fit what Tebow does within their offense in case of emergency? And I think bringing Manning on board will remove pressure from being forced to play Tebow, which frankly they should be ignoring anyway. Clamoring for a backup QB in lieu of a struggling starting QB is nothing new in any city, so if Manning shows he's struggling to that extent, it doesn't matter who the backup is.

      His cap figure is not unreasonable, if I'm not mistaken. Not sure what his yearly intake is, but his annual avg was only a little more than $2 mil per year, which is not unreasonable at all for a backup.

      Also, what pick would they honestly expect to receive? If a team gives up a 1 or a 2, sure, but I'd be shocked if that happens. Tebow may want to leave and lead his own team, but he wouldn't rock the boat if he stayed around, and I think it would be in Denver's best interest to keep him.

      That said, I think there's no chance he stays. I think they've already divorced themselves from him in their own minds, and I think that is a mistake.
    1. wxwax's Avatar
      I think these two are huge:

      b) Move on from Tebow-mania
      d) Not enough time to prepare two different styles of offense

      Denver will be well rid of Tebow-mania.
    1. mkocs6's Avatar
      I would seriously question how useful Tim Tebow is as a serious backup in a Peyton Manning system. The only problem is you may have to just cut him because I can't think of too many lunatics who would want to give you anything for the circus he'll bring with him to a new team.
    1. NickMykita's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by mkocs6 View Post
      I would seriously question how useful Tim Tebow is as a serious backup in a Peyton Manning system. The only problem is you may have to just cut him because I can't think of too many lunatics who would want to give you anything for the circus he'll bring with him to a new team.
      Some reports are suggesting that if the Broncos put Tebow on the market, they might not be able to fetch more than a 5th-round pick for him.
    1. wxwax's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by mkocs6 View Post
      The only problem is you may have to just cut him because I can't think of too many lunatics who would want to give you anything for the circus he'll bring with him to a new team.
      That's my take. The circus is nuts.
    1. Turk Schonert's Avatar
      [QUOTE=Trumpetbdw;98921]

      "Tebow is a galvanizing leader on the field"

      "On the field" are the key words here. How galvanizing is he going to be on the bench. He didn't galvanize the team when Kyle Orton was starting. Peyton's leadership is strong as well (in a different way), both personalities can't be at the forefront without issues.
    1. brauneyz's Avatar
      I haven't followed every FA acquisition so I don't know the answer, but if Timmy is traded, just who is left to backup Peyton? IIR, both Orton and Quinn are history.

      I'm in the camp that this move is just nutz (not knowing PM's true health status), so I'd be concerned about the viability of other QB's on the roster at this point.
    1. wxwax's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by brauneyz View Post
      I haven't followed every FA acquisition so I don't know the answer, but if Timmy is traded, just who is left to backup Peyton? IIR, both Orton and Quinn are history.

      I'm in the camp that this move is just nutz (not knowing PM's true health status), so I'd be concerned about the viability of other QB's on the roster at this point.
      Yes, Quinn signed with KC.

      Good question about Manning's back-up.
    1. mkocs6's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by wxwax View Post
      Yes, Quinn signed with KC.

      Good question about Manning's back-up.
      I believe Curtis Painter is available.
    1. Turk Schonert's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by brauneyz View Post
      I haven't followed every FA acquisition so I don't know the answer, but if Timmy is traded, just who is left to backup Peyton? IIR, both Orton and Quinn are history.

      I'm in the camp that this move is just nutz (not knowing PM's true health status), so I'd be concerned about the viability of other QB's on the roster at this point.
      This is another great question Denver has to answer. Billy Volek (Chargers) was recently let go, he would be a good back up to have, but they need to draft a QB for the future. Kirk Cousins (Mich St) could be on their radar.
    1. NickMykita's Avatar
      I just checked the roster on NFL.com, and the only other QB on the list besides Tebow is some guy named Adam Weber. Denver needs to be very careful about where they go from here, and they need to find a reliable backup. If they play this wrong, they could be one Manning injury away from certain doom.

      That's why keeping Tebow might not be such a bad idea.
    1. SpartaChris's Avatar
      I think you have to trade Tebow, if for no other reason than to send the message to the fan base that there will be no going back.
    1. wxwax's Avatar
      I remember reading some stuff about Weber a while ago. The claim was that if politics weren't involved, Weber would be higher up the QB food chain. This training camp piece may or may not have been what I read.

      More on Weber this off-season.
    1. Colts01's Avatar
      Agree with SpartaChris on Tebow.I think they draft knowing they have 2-3 years at best with Peyton.The fantasy draft stock of Demaryius Thomas and Eric Decker just shot up about three rounds as well.
    1. NickMykita's Avatar
      Just posted on ESPN.com about 5-10 minutes ago: David Garrard signs a 1-year deal with the Dolphins. One less backup for Denver to think about acquiring.
    1. vancemeek's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by SpartaChris View Post
      I think you have to trade Tebow, if for no other reason than to send the message to the fan base that there will be no going back.
      I think this is important. There was a poll that showed 45% of Broncos fans asked would rather have Tebow than Manning. If Manning is a little rusty, or has a bad few games, those idiots are going to start chanting for Tebow.
    1. Colts01's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by NickMykita View Post
      David Garrard signs a 1-year deal with the Dolphins. .

      Wow,I thought things were bad in Indy.
    1. Trumpetbdw's Avatar
      NFL Network had an {official scientific} poll via text messages that shows that 67% of all US Americans think the Broncos are going to win the Super Bowl. I wish I was making that up.

      Denver's paying an awful lot for the Manning name. For their sake, I hope they're actually purchasing the production that's typically been associated with that name.
    1. wxwax's Avatar
      This just in: 67% of Americans have a higher opinion of Manning than does Trumpy.

      Regarding Decker: I saw a bit of him in college and was hugely impressed. He hangs onto everything. I hope his late season injury doesn't permanently affect his ability, he could be fun to watch if Manning's truly fit.
    1. Colts01's Avatar
      No way the Broncos are the favorite's.Seems like an "In the moment"reaction to me.The Pats,Steelers,Texans,Ravens still have to be the favorites going in.