• Turk's 2012 Mock Draft (Revised)

    We're a little over two weeks away from the draft so here is my take. I've seen some of the athletes play, but most of my picks are based on what I've read and heard. You guys and gals are more in tune with the college players than I am, so feel free to laugh, criticize, and if you have to ... cry at my picks. You can probably use it as a reference as to who not to pick in your FP draft. Enjoy the read! Revised picks are in RED.

    1) Indy Colts - Andrew Luck (QB) - A no brainer ... he's a Stanford guy!!
    2) Washington Redskins - RG III (QB) - I just hope that Mike Shanahan gets and stays involved in teaching RG III, or else his progress will start slowly.
    3) Minnesota Vikings - Matt Kalil (OT) - An anchor for years at LT. Also, I played football in high school with his dad Frank, so I'm rooting for him to be drafted this high.
    4) Cleveland Browns - Trent Richardson (RB) - This offense, and especially their QB, need some play makers. They also need to give their fans something to get excited about this year (Tannehill doesn't do that).
    5) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Morris Claiborne (CB) - This defense needs help, Claiborne is the best cover corner, and an immediate starter.
    6) St Louis Rams - Justin Blackmon (WR) - Must get weapons for Sam Bradford!!!
    7) Jacksonville Jaguars - Michael Floyd (WR) - Need to help their QB and their fans psyche!
    8) Miami Dolphins - Reilly Reiff (OT) - Need a RT
    9) Carolina Panthers - Fletcher Cox (DT) - Must improve run defense
    10) Buffalo Bills - Luke Kuechly (LB) - Side line to side line player. They need to upgrade the LB position.
    11) Kansas City Chiefs - David DeCastro (OG) - All around player, can go out to tackle if needed. Starter in year one.
    12) Seattle Seahawks -Melvin Ingram (DE) - 12th man will make him an even better pass rusher.
    13) Arizona Cardinals - Gordy Glenn (OG) - With the top two WR's gone, they need to upgrade their O line ... for their QB's sake.
    14) Dallas Cowboys - Mark Barron (SS) - Good player, much needed
    15) Philadelphia Eagles - Quinton Coples (DE) - Eagles need defensive help badly.
    16) NY Jets - Chandler Jones (DE) - Must get a pass rush!!
    17) Cincinnati Bengals - Dre Kirkpatrick (CB) - Need DB's, (got it right this time).
    18) San Diego Chargers - Courtney Upshaw (LB) - Need more production out of their LBer core.
    19) Chicago Bears - Michael Brockers (DT) - Need somebody inside who is stout.
    20) Tennessee Titans - Peter Konz (C) - Fits well into run schemes, can pull and run.
    21) Cinti Bengals - Donta Hightower (LB) - Adding to defense
    22) Cleveland Browns - Stephen Gilmore (CB) - Can't have enough good corners.
    23) Detroit Lions - Kevin Zeitler (OG) - Upgrading the O line is a good thing for Stafford..
    24) Pittsburgh Steelers - Jonathan Martin (OT) - Need to fix O-line.
    25) Denver Broncos - Dontari Poe (DT) - Must improve run defense so that opponents can't control the clock and keep Peyton on the bench.
    26) Houston Texans - Kendall Wright (WR) - More offense is good (you can quote me).
    27) New England Patriots - Andre Branch (DE/LB) - Converted DE to play OLB (6'4" 260). Sound familiar?
    28) Green Bay Packers - Whitney Mercilus (DE) - Must help C. Matthews with pass rush
    29) Baltimore Ravens - Mike Adams (OT) - Need better protection for Flacco.
    30) San Francisco 49ers - Coby Fleener (TE) - Harbaugh knows him, and he knows how to use him. Alex Smith will be smiling with this pick
    31) New England Patriots - Janoris Jenkins (CB) - They need good cover corners badly.
    32) NY Giants - Stephen Hill (WR) - Another vertical weapon for Eli.

    Comments 30 Comments
    1. vancemeek's Avatar
      I rather the Bengals draft Gilmore if he's there than Cox. I don't think Kirkpatrick will go that high. Good stuff though.
    1. Andy Freeland's Avatar
      Okay, I'll be the first to nitpick. Trent Richardson is way too low. Granted, running backs tend to slide, but if he gets below 8-9 someone is trading up. Other than Kalil, Richardson might be the safest pick in the draft.

      Marge: Homer, it's easy to criticize.
      Homer: Fun, too
    1. ScottDCP's Avatar
      I think events will match your list until #6, when the Rams take Ingram.
      #7 The Jags then have an interesting choice - Trent Richardson and MJD together, don't bother throwing the ball? Tempting. Likely going in another direction though.I think they will pick physique over ability, and take Brockers.
      #8 Miami will then jump on Richardson. Or Floyd. Or Coples. I think they take Tannehill.
      #9 Panthers are smart. They have a talented QB, not enough defenders, and two strong RBs. Do they take Richardson? Or do they go with Coples or Kuechly? I think they take Floyd.
      #10 Buffalo will be stymied, because I think they lust for Floyd. I think they shoould take Reiff or Kuechly here. They will probably overspend on Kirkpatrick, who can't hack it one on one with a professional WR.
      #11 Chiefs get lucky, and don't waste a minute taking Richardson.
      #12 Seattle is weird. Pete whatsis is goofy. They take Coples.
      #13 Arizona takes DeCastro.
      #14 Agreed. Dallas takes Kuechly.
      #15 Eagles take Reiff.
      #16 Jets take Cox.
      #17 Bengals take Jonathan Martin.
      #18 Agreed. Chargers take Upshaw.
      #19 Bears take Mark Barron.
      #20 Titans take Kendall Wright.
      #21 No way Bengals trade. They take Hightower.
      #22 Agreed. Browns take Gilmore.
      #23 Steelers have to take Adams.
      #24 Lions take Konz.
      #25 Broncos take Doug Martin.
      #26 Texans take Janoris Jenkins.
      #27 Patriots take Worthy.
      #28 Agreed. Packers take Zeitler.
      #29 Ravens take Branch.
      #30 San Francisco takes Cordy Glenn.
      #31 New England takes Devon Still.
      #32 NY Giants take Josh Robinson, Vinny Curry, and Nick Perry.
    1. Andy Freeland's Avatar
      I think this is the first mock since the combine that I've seen with Fletcher Cox going ahead of Dontari Poe. Poe's amazing combine seemed to make people forget that he's not a very good football player. Fletcher Cox is.
    1. Turk Schonert's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Andy Freeland View Post
      Okay, I'll be the first to nitpick. Trent Richardson is way too low. Granted, running backs tend to slide, but if he gets below 8-9 someone is trading up. Other than Kalil, Richardson might be the safest pick in the draft.
      I know he's too low, but I had to have some fun with it. Richardson to the Jets would be fun!!
    1. Dave Lapham's Avatar
      I agree Fletcher Cox is a better football player than Dontari Poe. Cox is very versatile... has played nose tackle, 3 technique DT and DE. Stehen Gilmore looks comfortable playing press man as well as zone. Kirkpatrick looks long and is better at the line of scrimmage in press man coverage. After Claiborne, I think Gilmore is the best corner prospect in the draft. If he is there at 17, I would jump on him. I think he is a top 15 talent for sure.
    1. vancemeek's Avatar
      If the Bengals draft Jonathan Martin with Gilmore, Wright, Glenn, and Barron still there, I'm going to take a dump in my Bengals hat and throw it at the TV.
    1. GoBigOrGoHome's Avatar
      The Lions have already signed Stephen Tulloch to a 5-year deal, DeAndre Levy is fuly expected to sign his second round RFA tender before voluntary workouts start Monday. Justin Durant is also under contract this season. Bobby Carpenter left in FA.

      In the defensive backfield, already a position group with big needs, Eric Wright also left in FA.

      Martin Mayhew went on record today saying that the Lions will not reach for a pick in the first round. But Mayhew has proven to be willing to wheel & deal when it comes to draft picks.

      If your top 15 or so were to pan out, I'd look hard for Detroit to try to climb up a couple spots to grab Gilmore, Konz, or possibly Kuechly if they can make a move that far up (or if he falls).

      Oh, and if Mayhew doesn't make serious inroads to improving that O-line, I'm going to start banging the drum calling for him to go bu-bye.
    1. ScottDCP's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by vancemeek View Post
      If the Bengals draft Jonathan Martin with Gilmore, Wright, Glenn, and Barron still there, I'm going to take a dump in my Bengals hat and throw it at the TV.
      That's Alex Barron, right? They would do well to get a replacement.
    1. Bengals1181's Avatar
      I like Fletcher Cox as a player, but I have to ask you're reasoning as DT being a "need" Turk. The Bengals currently have 2 starters entrenched at DT (with one coming off a pro bowl appearance) and have a solid third DT. DT is not a need for the Bengals at all, and to boot they only typically dress 3 on gameday, which they already have. I can't see them passing on real needs like Glenn and Gilmore to take a non-position of need.

      What did Miami give to the Bengals for the trade up?
    1. Bengals1181's Avatar
      a few other thoughts:

      Kirkpatrick that high?

      Patriots drafted 2 RB's high last year.

      Ingram over Coples?

      Ravens already have 2 good young tight ends.
    1. ScottDCP's Avatar
      Re: Kirkpatrick going too high:
      SEC defenders, especially on BCS contender teams, are often overrated in the first two rounds. I say this because those two items are often used to explain high valuation on a player, and half the best two or three players at most defensive positions did not come from SEC schools.

      Plus I am afraid Buddy will pull the trigger on him, and I don't want that to happen, so I am doing my darnedest to change the way that wind blows here in western New York.
    1. Turk Schonert's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Bengals1181 View Post
      I like Fletcher Cox as a player, but I have to ask you're reasoning as DT being a "need" Turk. The Bengals currently have 2 starters entrenched at DT (with one coming off a pro bowl appearance) and have a solid third DT. DT is not a need for the Bengals at all, and to boot they only typically dress 3 on gameday, which they already have. I can't see them passing on real needs like Glenn and Gilmore to take a non-position of need.

      What did Miami give to the Bengals for the trade up?
      Hey, I said I didn't study, that's what you guys are for. If the Bengals take Gilmore, Chicago probably takes Cox two picks later. The Bengals get Miami's 2nd round pick this year and next ... as well as autographed footballs from all of their celebrity owners.
    1. Bengals1181's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Turk Schonert View Post
      Hey, I said I didn't study, that's what you guys are for. If the Bengals take Gilmore, Chicago probably takes Cox two picks later. The Bengals get Miami's 2nd round pick this year and next ... as well as autographed footballs from all of their celebrity owners.

      hmm you know mike better than me. You think that's a deal he'd take for a first round pick (knowing they already have an extra 2nd rounder next year from the carson trade)?
    1. darvon's Avatar
      Oh, and if Mayhew doesn't make serious inroads to improving that O-line, I'm going to start banging the drum calling for him to go bu-bye.
      Although I agree with you that we are OK @ LB, I don't know about improving the O-Line.

      Last week during a massive misunderstanding on my part, I tracked down which teams had how many receivers in the Top 50.

      To my surprise, the Lions had 4 in the Top 50. Whoa. Maybe the OLine is ok. I'd go get some DBs.
    1. Turk Schonert's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Bengals1181 View Post
      hmm you know mike better than me. You think that's a deal he'd take for a first round pick (knowing they already have an extra 2nd rounder next year from the carson trade)?
      To be honest ... I really don't think that Miami would trade up. If Tannehill isn't taken at #8 by Miami it says to me that he isn't significantly better than the other QB's rated 3 thru 6 in their eyes ... so why trade up?
      After the Palmer trade ... I call Mike "Wheeler Dealer Mike" now. Wouldn't a first and three 2nds look good in next years draft ... talk about building your future!
    1. GoBigOrGoHome's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by darvon View Post
      Although I agree with you that we are OK @ LB, I don't know about improving the O-Line.

      Last week during a massive misunderstanding on my part, I tracked down which teams had how many receivers in the Top 50.

      To my surprise, the Lions had 4 in the Top 50. Whoa. Maybe the OLine is ok. I'd go get some DBs.
      I understand this sentiment fully and concur that our #1 need is a DB (IMO a cover corner, to be specific). But if the BPA is an OL, they really need to consider him. Remember, Backus & Raiola are both heading into their 12th seasons. Now Raiola is signed thru 2013 and Backus just inked what will probably be his last contract with the Lions. Last year our offensive Achilles heel was a lack of a power run game. When we needed to eat clock, we could not do it (do you really think Matt Flynn was going off for 600 yards if we could have had even a semblance of a running game?). We have both Best (on whom I am no longer sold, but he ain't going away) and LeShoure (who Tom Kowalski and Tim Twentyman both agreed was, by long shot, the most impressive rookie in camp prior to his injury).

      So, as much as I'd like to turn the page on the Bust and go RB - hello, Doug Martin - that ain't happening. So why not, if available, go low-risk high-reward with a strong interior OL who can step in & start as at G with the ability to slide over for Dom at C when that time comes? One who can maybe even kick over to play T in a pinch? Watching our RBs try to run that stupid inside trap play Linehan likes to call ad nauseum was beyond frustrating last season. A LG with a strong background as a pulling blocker (Konz) or even a whole package OL (DeCastro - yes, I'm dreaming here) would be the logical move, no?

      Sorry to keep pounding this theme, here. But dammit I know, at some level, I am right that a moderately effective power run game coupled with some play action calls would really open up our offense even more. Four receivers in the top 50? That's all?
    1. msclemons's Avatar
      My top 10, in no particular order.

      1) Jim Irsay had a few too many drinks and gave away the 1st pick in a Twitter contest which was won by @CanadianBob. Bob promptly drafted Andrew Luck to play for the Toronto Argonauts.

      2) In a surprise move the Redskins select Steve Jobs, Owner, Deceased. Said Bruce Allen, “Snyder has been a bust and we really need better production at the owner position. We realize that Jobs is life-challenged but we feel he can be a significant upgrade.”

      3) A trade! The Seahawks give up their 2nd and 3rd to swap places with the Vikings. They select Spencer Hagan, WR, Cal. Spencer only started 2 games for Cal but they were really good games.

      4) The Cleveland Browns select Philip Blake, C, Baylor to replace team icon Brian Pontbriand. After scouting RGIII they noticed they really really liked his center.

      5) Tampa Bay selects Morris Claibourne to replace Aqib “Stop Or My Mom Will Shoot” Talib. LaGarret Blount was excited about the pick: “I’m not the dumbest guy on the team anymore!”

      6) The Rams select... well, really - who cares? It's the Rams.

      7) South Jacksonville High School will grab DT Jerel Worthy because that's how Gene Smith rolls.

      8) The Dolphins are obviously upset the Steve Jobs is off the board and fail to notice RGIII is still available. They select Tannehill and then promptly trade their remaining wide receivers. As GM Ireland points out :Tannehill played receiver for two years so he can just throw it to himself."

      9) Carolina could go a number of routes. They'll select whomever Steve Smith knocks out at pro days.

      10) The Bills will take Lamar Miller because they still need a kick returner.

      and of course, at #30 - the 49ers. They trade this pick to Cleveland for Alex Smith, TE. Says Baalke: "If I have two Alex Smith's I'll at least be able to get rid of ONE of them."
    1. Skycatch's Avatar
      Strictly looking at the Bengals, I think it goes like this:

      1. DeCastro or Glenn
      1a. Gilmore or Kirkpatrick
      2. Lamar Miller
      3. Brian Quick
      4. Markelle Martin.

      The only exception might be that if Richardson keeps falling, then I think you have to take him.
    1. mikesteelnation1's Avatar
      If poe, hightower, Glenn, cox, and barron are gone the steelers most likely will pick an o lineman. I just don't think it should be Adams. He's not any better than the guys we have. I'd prefer them picking zeitler, or worthy as a nt based on who was left on your mock.

      Of course I'd prefer Detroit to let old habits die hard and pick a wr in the 1st, so we can snatch hightower.
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