• Week 2 In Review: 18 Random Thoughts



    1. Can the media please stop with the Jay Cutler drama? So he got caught bumping into and swearing at J’Marcus Webb. His LT was trying to get him killed by playing the role of a human turnstile, how was he supposed to react? We’ve already seen what happens when he just shrugs things off. So which is it? Does he care too much, or not enough? Ironic that in the same game, Aaron Rodgers let James Jones verbally have it after a miscommunication. But thankfully for all of us, that didn’t need to become an issue this week. Aaron Rodgers cares the exact perfect amount that any logical human being is supposed to care. No more, no less.

    2. No RB has averaged more yards from scrimmage since last December than Ray Rice. Rice has averaged 150.6 yards per game over that span. Yet, Rice has only averaged 13 carries, and less than 18 touches per game so far this season. Perhaps getting the ball in his hands more would allow Joe Flacco to not have to worry so much about the officiating.

    3. #2 on that list is Reggie Bush. Bush is averaging over 148 yards per game in his last 6 games played.

    4. #3 is CJ Spiller. Spiller is taking advantage of the fact that Fred Jackson has unfortunately struggled with the skill of staying healthy, leading all of the NFL so far this year with 364 yards from scrimmage. Even when Jackson finally does return, Spiller has earned his role as the #1 RB in Buffalo.

    5. Drew Brees should buy Rolexes for his entire defense if he leads the NFL in passing yards again this season.

    6. Trent Richardson looks to me a lot like Steven Jackson. Unfortunately for him, the Browns look an awful lot like most of the Rams teams Jackson’s been associated with.

    7. Cincinnati’s defense has made Joe Flacco and Brandon Weeden look like All-Pros. This is going to be a long year in the Queen City, methinks.

    8. Christian Ponder leads the NFL with a completion percentage near 76%. Perhaps he was shooting too low when he stated that he wanted to complete 75% of his passes on only 1st and 2nd down.

    9. Griffin and Luck still stand out, but 2 weeks in, all 5 rookie QBs have already shown real promise in at least one of their starts. Only Brandon Weeden is still winless, and he had a higher QB rating than all of them in week 2.

    10. Houston looks dominant. I have a feeling Miami and Jacksonville had as much to do with that as anything.

    11. Arizona goes to NE and knocks off the Pats. Raise your hand if you’re still left in your survivor pool…

    12. Bravo, Greg Schiano. For a team that quit last year, playing to the final gun is a necessity.

    13. I hope the Giants players fined Coughlin for arriving late to the locker room following their win.

    14. Turns out the Cowboys are exactly who they’ve been all along.

    15. It seems that the switch from Bruce Arians to Todd Haley has finally allowed Ben Roethlisberger to grow into the leader the Steelers need him to be. Haley and Roethlisberger put on a clinic yesterday.

    16. It’s only been 2 games, but Philip Rivers looks like he’s on a mission this year.

    17. Forget about the past, and let’s look at right now. Alex Smith is a very good, legitimate NFL QB. San Francisco also has the most good players of any team in the league. I’m not sure even Kyle Williams can keep them out of the Super Bowl this year.

    18. Perception is reality. Perhaps these officials aren’t actually all that much worse than the zebras that preceded them. But in huddling after every penalty, stammering on seemingly every announcement, and looking indecisive while pointing in the wrong direction after changes in possession, these replacements aren’t doing themselves any favors. It’s time for the NFL to swallow a little pride and let the real refs get back to work.

    Comments 19 Comments
    1. vancemeek's Avatar
      1. Cutler has been a douche for years, and this is what happens. Aaron Rodgers is a nice guy. Perception is reality.

      4. Spiller absolutely should be the starter. I like Jackson, but c'mon.

      7. Agreed. The Bengals defense has been an utter failure in every aspect. No pressure from the line. The secondary has been beyond suspect, and Rey Maualuga is probably the worst middle LB in the league. Injuries haven't helped.

      10. I stand by my prediction of a deep playoff run for Houston.

      11. I took Cincinnati in the survivor pool.

      12. Agreed. The Bucs gave up last year. Bravo for going all out.

      16. San Diego looks legit so far. Malcolm Floyd is going to have a big year.

      18. I just don't see the NFL caving on the officials.
    1. iwatt's Avatar
      19. Playing the Bengals pass D is a bad decision when running a BQBL.

      20. The Raiders are paying the price of having the king of garbage compiling on their roster. Carson Palmer once again put on a stat line at odds with the results on field.
    1. packa7x's Avatar
      1. They'll stop when he mans up. He's losing that locker room with his conduct. The difference between Rodgers/Cutler is that Webb was physically beat while Jones had a mental error. It'd be like Webb screaming at Cutler for not outrunning a defender.
    1. Patrick Sullivan's Avatar
      The Cutler thing is amusing. The dude is just unlikable. He'll probably have to deal with kind of junk even after he wins the biggest game.
    1. Rich Gapinski's Avatar
      The national media will always dislike Cutler. It goes back to the NFC Champ game when I saw from the stands him helping Hanie only to find out how Fox portrayed it.

      The league needs guys like him to have two sides to a PR machine. Certain guys will be shown having sideline arguments more often and certain others aren't. Brady berated his coach and got no flak.

      For Webb, yes, he is not physically capable of stopping anyone when he has one of his games where he is not moving his feet and has alligator arms. Bad combo. The maddening thing is that he DOES have the physical ability to play his position. He just does not always do it. Other than having off days at the most important position, he is known to be too much of a happy go lucky guy who is missing the mean streak.

      I consider most of it much ado about nothing. The chest bump was wrong, but everything Jay does is wrong. If the Bears win 10-11 games and make the playoffs, then the worries will go away a bit. The stigma on Cutler won't because of the image, but from what I've heard, he has a very small circle and is not an affable guy. Even jerks can win games.
    1. Trumpetbdw's Avatar
      Cutler is very likely a jerk, or more likely, simply not trustful of people outside his circle, which is probably a smart thing on his part. But my problem with the way all of this has been portrayed is that many QBs have had issues with other players not doing their jobs. Peyton Manning instantly comes to mind, with blowups at numerous players, including Jeff Saturday and Donald Brown. Very good QBs like Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, {Bubby Brister}, Tom Brady, Boomer Esiason, Jim McMahon, etc have all had some nasty in them on the field.

      Webb's inconsistency would have to be more maddening than anything, because if it's not a talent issue, then it's likely an effort issue. So I get why Cutler was frustrated. Should he have handled it differently? Probably. But I don't think that incident will in any way move the needle regarding his leadership, or losing the locker room.

      I just don't get why it became a big deal, other than it's Jay Cutler, and that's what the media does when it's Jay Cutler. But this comes across as something that used to happen all the time, and probably still happens more than we know. And I think the problem is that there's an increased presence of the media, from former player analysts all over the place, to the blogosphere, and beyond. Because of this, more media members (in my estimation) are likely to fraternize with the players too much. Therefore, they protect the players who are most accessible to them. Cutler is clearly not one of the more accessible athletes, so no one feels the need to protect him, and everything he does has the tendency to get spun in a negative light.
    1. msclemons's Avatar
      1) Cutler's perception problem started in Denver when he pouted his way out of town. His lack of charisma just continues the issue. Just the way it is.

      17) I wonder how many bad quarterbacks over the last 10 years would have ended up being good if they'd been given 7 years to get their s--- together? Alex may be good now but he sure is a slow learner.

      18) Unless ticket sales and ratings are affected the NFL won't budge on the replacements. One question though - I thought it was illegal to hire replacements in a lockout situation?
    1. vancemeek's Avatar
      Smith had, what 37 different coaches with 45 different systems in his first 6 seasons. Bound to make it hard to develop properly.
    1. Bengals1181's Avatar
      Bengals D should be helped by getting Dunlap, Allen, Kirkpatrick and Moch back. Pass rush and coverage guys.

      Can only get better at this point.
    1. Amy's Avatar
      Another random thought: When the NFL smacks you down, accept it and move on. For those of you who haven't read the story yet, Roger showed this:

      http://assets.espn.go.com/pdf/2012/0...msdocument.pdf

      to Vilma today. Evidence. There ya go, Wax.
    1. Trumpetbdw's Avatar
      Does anyone else find it amazing that over the last 7 regular season games, Reggie Bush and CJ Spiller, both written off very recently as busts, are #2 and #3 in YPG?

      Related topic. Rest of the way, who has more yards? Bush or Chris Johnson? Is that even a fair debate at this point?
    1. Bengals1181's Avatar
      I blame myself. I've been drafting Spiller and Bush in fantasy drafts the last few years and they've done nothing but disappoint. I didn't take either this year.
    1. Trumpetbdw's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Bengals1181 View Post
      I blame myself. I've been drafting Spiller and Bush in fantasy drafts the last few years and they've done nothing but disappoint. I didn't take either this year.
      I drafted both this year, along with Adrian Peterson. I'm kinda glad Matt Forte got hurt just to clear things up a bit for me.
    1. iwatt's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by packa7x View Post
      1. They'll stop when he mans up. He's losing that locker room with his conduct. The difference between Rodgers/Cutler is that Webb was physically beat while Jones had a mental error. It'd be like Webb screaming at Cutler for not outrunning a defender.
      You inside that locker room? This is the same kind of rhetoric coming from the Twitteverse after the 2010 NFC championship. Until we actually see this famous lockeroom loss, let's cut the inflammatory remarks. The man up argument also seems out of place, considering just s t how many hits he has taken, and keeps getting up and playing.

      Lots of QBs do this same thing. Somehow with Jay it's a big deal. As mentioned Webb is a loveable doofus. The coaching staff didn't help much, but he has to get his act together.

      Jay Cutler' s main issue is arrogance. He'll try throws he shouldn't, and Will never throw a ball away. Probably comes from his time in Vandy were he was the only reason the team had a chance.

      Bill Barnwell from grantland basically said it. Cutler is an amazing talent with out the consistency you want. Get over expecting this to change, and just hope his good games come when they are needed the most.
    1. SpartaChris's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by iwatt View Post
      You inside that locker room? This is the same kind of rhetoric coming from the Twitteverse after the 2010 NFC championship. Until we actually see this famous lockeroom loss, let's cut the inflammatory remarks. The man up argument also seems out of place, considering just s t how many hits he has taken, and keeps getting up and playing.

      Lots of QBs do this same thing. Somehow with Jay it's a big deal. As mentioned Webb is a loveable doofus. The coaching staff didn't help much, but he has to get his act together.

      Jay Cutler' s main issue is arrogance. He'll try throws he shouldn't, and Will never throw a ball away. Probably comes from his time in Vandy were he was the only reason the team had a chance.

      Bill Barnwell from grantland basically said it. Cutler is an amazing talent with out the consistency you want. Get over expecting this to change, and just hope his good games come when they are needed the most.
      Actually, the idea that he's on his way to losing the locker room isn't all that far fetched, not when you have current players speaking up about the situation:

      http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...act-like-that/

      I don't believe they're at the mutiny stage yet, not even close at this point. But there is obvious discontent.
    1. Pruitt's Avatar
      18. Perception is reality. Perhaps these officials aren’t actually all that much worse than the zebras that preceded them. But in huddling after every penalty, stammering on seemingly every announcement, and looking indecisive while pointing in the wrong direction after changes in possession, these replacements aren’t doing themselves any favors. It’s time for the NFL to swallow a little pride and let the real refs get back to work.
      After last night's debacle, the league had better get a move on. When the MNF announcers turn on the refs, watch other announcers do the same.

      Speaking of last night's game, Manning's throws looked like they were made with Ryan Fitzpatrick's arm. He is still savvy enough to get the throws where they need to go, but the "Peyton is back!" narrative may have been premature.
    1. iwatt's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by SpartaChris View Post

      Actually, the idea that he's on his way to losing the locker room isn't all that far fetched, not when you have current players speaking up about the situation:

      http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...act-like-that/

      I don't believe they're at the mutiny stage yet, not even close at this point. But there is obvious discontent.
      Ugh... the countdown for Moore saying he was misquoted will start in 3....2....1

      Just play ball. Stomp on the Rams OL, and remember to cover Chris long.
    1. Bengals1181's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Pruitt View Post
      After last night's debacle, the league had better get a move on. When the MNF announcers turn on the refs, watch other announcers do the same.

      Speaking of last night's game, Manning's throws looked like they were made with Ryan Fitzpatrick's arm. He is still savvy enough to get the throws where they need to go, but the "Peyton is back!" narrative may have been premature.

      League is in a tough spot. They're in the right and the regular refs are being completely unreasonable, but how much longer can they go on with the replacements?


      Not to mention while the replacements certainly aren't as good as the regulars, they're also getting unfair scruitiny. Let's face it, fans and media are watching for screwups this year far more than they have in the past. With the replacements, people are LOOKING for mistakes, far more scruitiny than the regulars ever got and I'm certain there's mistakes the regulars made that people overlooked all the time because they weren't watching them as closely.
    1. Trumpetbdw's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Pruitt View Post
      Speaking of last night's game, Manning's throws looked like they were made with Ryan Fitzpatrick's arm. He is still savvy enough to get the throws where they need to go, but the "Peyton is back!" narrative may have been premature.
      Yup. We were discussing this in the chat. Last week against Pittsburgh, I didn't remember a single pass over 15 yards. Kaba looked it up, and it turns out he threw 1 pass over 20 yards in that game. It was an incompletion to Demaryius Thomas.

      The Steelers were unable to force him into trying to extend the defense, and allowed him to pick them apart on the intermediate throws. Atlanta forced him to throw downfield much more last night, and he looked like a different QB. We even noted at one point in the 4th quarter a pass that looked like it had good zip on it, but how much effort it took for him to get that zip on the throw. He had a perfectly clean pocket, and exaggerated his hip turn on that throw more than I ever remember seeing him have to do. The throw was high and inaccurate.

      Last night was his last game in a dome. He's lost some MPH, which NBC did a great job of documenting against Pittsburgh. Many don't think it's a big deal, because his arm's never been nearly as strong as many want to believe, but I do think it's a big deal. Lost MPH equals less rotation, which will impact the cleanliness of his spiral, especially if the wind conditions aren't cooperating. His arm strength is below average right now, and he's already starting to flutter some balls. While continued rehab may help, I'd also be concerned about potential arm fatigue in the later stages of the season.