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    Matt Kocsan

    Random Thoughts From Week 5

    I liked going for it. I did not like the Wildcat. Here's the dumb play I would have called instead.... Go to last post

    Matt Kocsan 10-13-2015 01:39 PM
    Brian Williams

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    I get that, but as much as I wanted to hate the call for the Wildcat, it's clear they worked on it,... Go to last post

    Brian Williams 10-13-2015 01:33 PM

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    I didn't like the Wild Cat. I'm guessing they don't trust Vick to run the Zone read?

    But going... Go to last post

    iwatt 10-13-2015 12:41 PM
    Brian Williams

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    Exactly. When you're a couple inches from the goal line, even with one play, that's your best... Go to last post

    Brian Williams 10-13-2015 12:05 PM

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    Never say this. It can always get worse. We fans of Historically Bad Teams know this, right???:eek: Go to last post

    Nancy 10-13-2015 12:01 PM

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    re: The Steelers last night.

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    Amy 10-13-2015 10:52 AM
    Patrick Sullivan

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    Cris Collinsworth

    Former Pro Bowl wide receiver for the Cincinnati Bengals and Emmy-winning analyst from Sunday Night Football and Inside the NFL.
    Dave Lapham
    Has called game for the Bengals radio network for 25 years. Analyst for Big 12 games on Fox Sports Net. Played 10 years in the NFL for the Cincinnati Bengals.
    Turk Schonert
    NFL quarterback for 10 years with the Bengals and Falcons. Has served as quarterback coach for the Buccaneers, Bills, Panthers, Giants and Saints and Offensive Coordinator for the Bills.
    Phil McConkey
    Played 6 years in the NFL as a WR, punt returner and kick returner for the Giants, Packers, Cardinals and Chargers. Played college football at the Naval Academy and served in the U.S. Navy before joining the NFL. Best remembered for his oustanding game in Super Bowl XXI.
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    Josina "JoJo" Anderson is contributing reporter on Showtime's Inside the NFL and is a weekend co-anchor/reporter/producer for FOX 31 Sports in Denver, Colorado. Josina produces the nightly sportscasts and covers the Denver Broncos, Denver Nuggets, Colorado Avalanche, and the Colorado Rockies.
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  • Je'Rod Cherry Criticizes Bears and Cutler for Following New Protocols

    The Bears and Jay Cutler are under fire again after a high-profile injury incident during a national telecast. The heat is not coming from the league, Maurice Jones-Drew or the Fox cameras, but from ESPN 850 radio personality Je'Rod Cherry. Cherry, a former three-time Super Bowl winner with the Patriots, stated words to the effect that Cutler should have forced himself back into the game against the Texans because it had playoff implications.

    I don't think it should be surprising that the words were spoken by a player whose career ended by 2004 and was in the NFL when the league itself was trying to deny any effects of concussions, but I do think the statements show two problems with how players can think in the NFL.

    First, the comments show that there are some players that exist, whether they have been in the league since 2004 or not, who think that a player on their team could possibly considered weak for not returning with a diagnosed concussion. I have to believe that Cherry is not the only former player to feel this way and that there are current players out there with the same thoughts. Do some players in the league still believe old rhetoric? There has to be another sect of players who know the risks and do not care and blindly follow the gladiator culture.

    Secondly, what about the fact that the Bears followed the protocol that the league stated with their letter to teams about concussions in 2011? The NFL stated that a concussed played should not re-enter the field of play. The phrase of the week from the letter was "When in doubt, leave them out." Does Cherry think it is okay for teams to ignore the letter or does he think that the players should be lying when they aren't? What if the player never asked for the test and the team conducted it because the medical staff thought they should? Is the player in question still a pansy?

    Unfortunately, the conversation above never occurred when the co-host changed the subject quickly to discuss another game. I missed if it was brought up again later when I had to get out the car for a meeting. Still, I feel that the fact the words were even said is proof that the culture around the league cannot change unless the players are on board.

    I found this article interesting about the language still being used about NFL head injuries, uh, concussions: http://www.slate.com/articles/sports...o_survive.html

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    1. Rich Gapinski's Avatar
      Already an edit:

      The 2011 memo dealt with NFL medical personnel being at the games.

      The memo changing the concussion rules from "knockouts" to symptoms was in 2009:

    1. Rich Gapinski's Avatar
      NFL concluded that they liked how the Bears handled Cutler:

    1. iwatt's Avatar
      Jay can't win. You'd think he did something to these guys mothers.

      Regarding the players: remeber in 08 or 09 when Ben missed a game against the Ravens because of a concussion and Hines Ward basically called him out for it. That was right before the concussion thing started grabbing steam, and Ben was pulled by the staff. Polamalu himself has said that he probabaly would hide simptoms. Some players say they got a stinger or something and try to walk it off. I think it's changing, slowly, as the older guard phases out. I'm still sure a lot of OL are getting concussed and not realizing it.

      Jay got a lot of time with the review to shake the cobwebs (Cris commented on the fact), and apparently didn't start showing symptoms until after a while. This is a common situation (maybe not frequent) with concussions.
    1. Rich Gapinski's Avatar
      I have tried to no avail to find audio of that conversation. ESPN 850 does not post "The Really Big Show" in it's entirety.
    1. SpartaChris's Avatar
      Part of his problem is that he spells his name "Je'rod." WTF does that even mean, anyway?
    1. Rich Gapinski's Avatar
      I found Warner's comments about doing better on the imPACT test than his baseline to be interesting. It gives some credence to my thoughts that more tests need to be done on the tests that test for concussions.

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    Amy On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:08:08 -0500

    Week 5 Update:

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    tubbs1518 On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 00:29:21 -0500

    Absolutely. That was a completely crap slide to and if I was an ump he would have been ejected for it. Go to last post

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    Matt Kocsan On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 22:55:27 -0500

    ...anyone jumping into chat for the fourth quarter? Go to last post

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    hobbes27 On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:12:22 -0500

    BTW, I assume you were calling this a bush league slide back in 2012 when Matt Holiday did this.

    http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/39049312/v25415817/must-c-collision-holliday-slides-into-scutaro Go to last post

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    hobbes27 On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:17:04 -0500

    The point is that there are a lot of BS slides that baserunners get away for the purpose of trying to break up a double play. The purpose of Utley's slide was timed to break up a double play. ... Go to last post

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    hobbes27 On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:09:08 -0500

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    tubbs1518 On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 14:57:46 -0500

    This is also my thoughts. Had he started his slide like a normal runner does and takes Tejada out, no issue at all from me. He was pretty much past the bad when he started and it was clear he wasn't... Go to last post

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    tubbs1518 On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 14:54:45 -0500

    This is also part of my thought. If Utley plays tonight I can all but guarantee you a brawl will ensue because: 1. He will get drilled. Absolutely no doubt and I'm not 100% sure it will be just the... Go to last post

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    Matt Kocsan On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 14:43:06 -0500

    Oh, and if pitchers purposefully throw at batters, ejections and suspensions typically follow. Go to last post

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    Matt Kocsan On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 14:30:16 -0500

    The issue is not takeout slides for me; the issue is where Utley began his slide. These images don't really address that. Though I have no doubt that similar things have happened before and they... Go to last post