All-Football Pros Team

Wait, Aldon Smith wasn't unanimous?

Also, Heath Miller??

Gronk or Witten > Miller.
M.Lynch over Morris

I voted Lynch over Morris and Graham over Miller. I would have put Miller below several TEs

Originally Posted by vancemeek

Wait, Aldon Smith wasn't unanimous?

Also, Heath Miller??

I didn't vote for Aldon Smith. As great as his season was, I gave Clay Matthews the slight nod ahead of him.

As far as Heath Miller goes, my vote was for Gronkowski. But as you said, you voted for Jimmy Graham, and the other two votes came in for Heath Miller.

Smith over Matthews this year.

Gronkowski over Miller and everyone else too.

Lynch over Morris.

Evans did not look so good in the two Saints games where I paid attention.

Rodgers over Manning. Don't think it's bias but can't rule it out.

All kickers are nuts and Walsh had a good year, but when does he regress back to what he was in college?

Any difference between Lynch and Morris is negligible this year, if you look at the numbers.

I voted for Miller at TE. I was really impressed with his play this year. He also blocks. Our opinions of tight ends might be skewed by rising expectations. Gronkowski only played 11 games. Graham's receiving numbers are not that much better than Miller's. Witten had a strange year--not many touchdowns, normal amount of yards. That whole spleen thing and the injuries to the Cowboys o-line hurt.

Originally Posted by edave

Evans did not look so good in the two Saints games where I paid attention.

There were 12 linemen with over 500 snaps that didn't give up a sack for the season, and Evans was 2nd.

Originally Posted by mkocs6

Any difference between Lynch and Morris is negligible this year, if you look at the numbers.

True and Lynch has been doing it consistently for longer. Beast mode is pretty impressive.

Originally Posted by mkocs6

I voted for Miller at TE. I was really impressed with his play this year. He also blocks. Our opinions of tight ends might be skewed by rising expectations. Gronkowski only played 11 games. Graham's receiving numbers are not that much better than Miller's. Witten had a strange year--not many touchdowns, normal amount of yards. That whole spleen thing and the injuries to the Cowboys o-line hurt.

Gronks blocking was actually what sold me on him this year. Not just from a traditional TE position but also from the backfield a few times early in the season. He's not pretty as a blocker, just really effective.

His missing so many games is a problem, I certainly held it against Clay. I guess I feel he's so much better than anyone else that it didn't matter. Hypocrite much? Nah!

I sit here shocked, SHOCKED I say, at the assertion that Jimmy Graham received a sniff of our all-pro vote. Sorry vance, I think you do a great job, but that vote blows me away. Don't get me wrong, I think Graham is a true offensive difference-maker, but his production was not great this year. I give him credit for having good numbers in an off year while battling through injury, but I thought 11 games of Gronk was more valuable than Graham, and no, I didn't vote for him either. Gronk would have run away with the TE vote, but missing 5 games played a big role in my decision. And yes, I was also impressed with his all-around game this year. But Earl Heath Miller is so underrated it's ridiculous. He's the best blocking TE in the league by a mile, was the best all-around TE in the league this year, and I'm just happy he's finally getting his due. My runner up probably would have been Tony Gonzalez, but his production severely dropped in the 2nd half. Gronk would have been my #3, despite being the best per-game option this year.

What fun would it be if we all agreed?

I guess I'll list my dissentions with the actual list, although it's tough to argue with most of our choices...

QB- I can't confirm this, but I'll guess that I was the only dissenting voice that kept Manning from being a unanimous choice. That's mainly because I made the distinction that instead of looking for the most valuable player by position to his team, I was looking for the best all-around offensive or defensive player at each position. And despite what's perceived as a slightly down year (since last year was beyond ridiculous), I went with Aaron Rodgers as the 1st team QB. He's the best QB in the league right now, if not technically the most valuable this year. Brady would have been my 2nd team choice.

RB- Agreed with both choices. Choosing between Morris and Marshawn was about as tight a selection as I felt we had to make.

WR- Again, I think we made the right call on both Johnson and Thomas. Both got my vote. Andre Johnson was my final cut, but I'm a bit surprised Brandon Marshall didn't earn our 1st team nod.

TE- Agreed (see above)

OL- Dissentions were Okung over Brown and Unger over Sullivan. It's tough to argue with Brown getting the vote. Sullivan surprised me a bit. I'd have put Mike Pouncey right behind Unger. But rewarding someone on that Vikings line is probably the right move.

DL- I was the Jared Allen contingent. Other than that, completely agreed with the other picks.

LB- In agreement with Miller, Smith, and Bowman at LB. My lone dissention was the perpetually underrated London Fletcher instead of Derrick Johnson. Honorable mention has to go to Lawrence Timmons, who is overshadowed in Pittsburgh since he's not a pass-rusher, but was phenomenal yet again this season.

DB- I'm in line with both CB selections. However, I dissented on both safeties. Weddle and Byrd are both very good, but I went with Earl Thomas and Donte Whitner.

ST- Agree with all 3 of our selections

Originally Posted by vancemeek

What fun would it be if we all agreed?

None whatsoever.