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    Former Pro Bowl wide receiver for the Cincinnati Bengals and Emmy-winning analyst from Sunday Night Football and Inside the NFL.
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  • How Much Is Joe Flacco Worth


    As we all know, Super Bowl MVP Joe Flacco will be a free agent this year. We also know that he isn't going anywhere. The NFL system is designed to keep franchise quarterbacks with their team as long as the team wants them and is willing to pay. If they can't work out a long term deal before he hits the open market, and I will be surprised if they can, the Ravens will undoubtedly slap the franchise tag on him. The question is, what's he worth? How much would you pay for Joe Flacco?

    Joe Flacco had a tremendous post-season. 11 TDs - 0 INTs, 117.2 rating, only 6 sacks in 4 games. But statistically, he's never been among the elite quarterbacks during his 5-year career. A career rating of 86.3, he's only had 1 season above 90 (93.6 in '10). H's never thrown for more than 25 TDs, only throwing 22 this year. He doesn't throw a lot of INTs, 10 to 12 every year. He moves pretty well, but does take quite a few sacks. Are the lack of eye-popping numbers a sign that he's just an average QB or is it because he plays in a system that doesn't require the QB to carry the team? Was his post-season a sign that's he turned the corner, or just an anomaly?

    Rumor has it, Flacco wants to be paid like the big boys, $20+ million a year for 5-7 years. Can the Ravens make that kind of investment in a guy that has never put together a full Pro Bowl caliber season? Can they risk a hold out if they franchise him, after seeing how slowly Drew Brees started this year? How much would you pay Joe Flacco?

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    1. Rich Gapinski's Avatar
      I would have tried to pay him $14 Million a season if the playoffs never happened. That is what I feel his rate should be.

      Unfortunately, the Ravens will not get this luxury. The going rate for a quarterback that has been to or can get you to a Super Bowl is in the $16-20 Million range and the franchise tag, though not official until April?, is probably going to be right in the $20 Million range. Of course, with the possibility of signing names like Reed and Boldin to be a pipe dream without cuts and creative financing, the Ravens would do themselves a favor by signing Joe long term in a way that is kindest to the overall books.

      The question comes down to the same question that should come up every time a coach is rumored to be fired: Well, who ya gonna get? In this case, with a weak FA class and a weaker draft class, the Ravens are backed into a corner where their choices are pretty obvious and limited.

      In short, I think the Ravens will be paying $20 Million for a guy in the $14 Million range.
    1. NickMykita's Avatar
      Prior to the Super Bowl, he (or his agent) said he wanted "Drew Brees" money. Had he lost the Super Bowl, I don't think I would give it to him. But considering he won, and looked spectacular in the process, he's more than earned it. The unfortunate drawback is that they're probably going to have to dump several people to make room for that new contract.
    1. wxwax's Avatar
      I've really been hooked by this 5th year thing for QB's. I don't think Flacco is a fluke, a playoff wonder. If they can keep the talent around him, he'll be good for years. So I accept that he's worth big money.
    1. KabaModernFan's Avatar
      I'm just hoping that the team doesn't have Elvis Grbac's number still lying around somewhere.
    1. hobbes27's Avatar
      Flacco doesn't feel like a $20 million/year QB, but I guess part of that is due to the fact that the guy is kinda dull and he doesn't make the eye popping plays other QBs tend to make. Although he made some great throws in the superbowl.
    1. darvon's Avatar
      $16 Million a year and then $1M for each playoff win.
    1. traged's Avatar
      $20 million/year is definitely waaaay too much for him!