• Zone Blitz: Circling The Wagons And Your Week 8 NFL Open Thread



    Joining me for the Blitz this week is longtime FP user and Bills fanatic ScottDCP. We've had a good time putting this together, and hope you enjoy the back-and-forth. Unfortnately, after Scott agreed to help out, the Bills had a bit of a rough weekend on the injury front, so that's exactly where we'll start.


    Circling The Wagons

    BW: Let's start with your Bills, who thanks to some competent QB play, were able to pull out a last second victory against Minnesota that moved them to a game over .500, and only a game behind the Pats for first in the AFC East. Of course, unfortunately for Buffalo, the big story wasn't the win, it was the loss of their top 2 RBs. Fred Jackson left on a cart late in the first quarter with a groin injury. Fortunately for the aging Jackson, one of the easiest players in the league to root for, the injury doesn't look to be too serious, and he should be back in about a month.

    The big injury for Buffalo was to CJ Spiller. I'll admit that I don't see the Bills all that much, so obviously you'll be able to correct me if I'm wrong, but one of the frustrating things about Doug Marrone has to have been his inability to find ways to put Spiller in space, and let him do what he does best. For all that Chan Gailey wasn't, at least he knew how to use Spiller. Even after Jackson went out, it took a half a quarter for Spiller to touch the ball, as Anthony Dixon and Lt. Frank Summers were seeing touches over him. Then, when Spiller finally gets his 1st carry (and 2nd touch) of the game with under 6:00 left in the 2nd quarter, he hits it for 53 yards. Of course, when he was tripped up, he landed wrong and broke his collarbone. The Bills have just put him on IR-Designated to Return, but for all intents and purposes, Spiller's season is over.

    CJ Spiller is a free agent at the end of this year. Do you think we've seen Spiller's last carry as a Buffalo Bill? And as for the remainder of this year, the Bills traded a 4th round pick to get Bryce Brown from the Eagles, yet he's been a healthy scratch all year due to his inability to play special teams. Anthony Dixon was the main ball-carrier on Sunday. Do you think Dixon will hold onto that job until Fred Jackson returns, or do you think they'll give Bryce Brown a shot, considering the investment they made in him during the offseason? Perhaps even more importantly, whomever takes over, how effective do you think they can be?


    SL:You nailed it on the frustrating inability to put Spiller in position to succeed. They have been unable to do it since they got to town, and have done nothing visible to change that. They still run him on the same four plays from the same two formations every time out, and none of them involve stretching the defense - almost always over Center or Guard. The injury to Jackson might have more impact than it would appear at first blush. He bails them out of bad field position two or three times a game with ridiculous runs after catch; the kind of thing that covers eight yards downfield and thirty side to side, but more importantly blocks as well as any of their offensive linemen. The key to overcoming those injuries will be whether they try to limit Dixon to inside run after inside run. If they let him be a real running back and split the load with Brown, they should do well enough to scratch out wins over the Jets and Dolphins. With Jackson I would expect them to beat Kansas City, Cleveland, and the Patriots. Without I think they don't beat the Patriots and KC becomes a tossup. Regardless of who plays, I do not expect them to beat Denver or Green Bay at all.

    I don't think it is Spiller's last carry for the Bills because I expect them to steal a Wild Card playoff spot, and I expect him to suit up for that game. After that? Yes, I think he pays elsewhere next year. He is frustrated, too, and I don't think he wants to be there.


    Sleepless In Seattle

    BW: I apologize in advance for the most obvious sub-heading of all time. Following a loss at home to Dallas that took a little bit of luster off of their defense, the Seahawks were set for a rebound against their struggling divisional foes in St. Louis. The Rams, despite being led by arguably the least creative coaching staff in NFL history (that's what happens when you mix a Fisher with a Schottenheimer), didn't get the memo, and not only jumped all over the Seahawks, but actually looked like a bit of a fun team in the process. I'm including a link to the Rams' punt return TD in the 2nd quarter, but as great as that was, Jeff Fisher having the stones to (correctly) call for a fake punt from deep in their own territory was pure genius. The Rams weren't stopping Russell Wilson had Seattle gotten the ball back, and I wish more coaches would take advantage of all 4 downs, especially when it's clear that all punting will do is delay the inevitable (perhaps Jim Harbaugh should have just given his punter the night off).

    With 2 losses in a row, the Seahawks now find themselves at 3-3, 2 games back of the 1st place Cardinals. Yes, it is concerning that they got pushed around at home by Dallas, and yes, it's concerning that they followed it up by laying a 1st half egg against St. Louis, but the responded in the 2nd half and nearly won the game. Russell Wilson, after about 6 quarters of poor football, responded nicely in the 2nd half, and is turning himself into one of the most dangerous players in the league. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on whether Seattle should be worried, but while I don't necessarily think they're the class of the NFC this year, I do think that Seattle will be fine, and should rebound by putting a big hurting on the Panthers in Carolina this coming Sunday.


    SL:No apology necessary; I like that movie. I thought Victor Garber was excellent. Seattle seems to miss the defensive line depth they enjoyed last year. They aren't getting the sustained four quarters of pass rush series after series. They appear to be having trouble on the offensive line as well. I agree that they will likely rebound from this dip in October, but it sets them up to suffer in Green Bay, Philadelphia, or Dallas(?!?!?!) in January.


    Backups Be Backups

    BW: It is not surprising whatsoever when the Seahawks are favored by a TD on the road. What is surprising is when the Browns are nearly a TD favorite on the road, which is exactly the situation they found themselves in last week. Coming off a rare blowout win over the Steelers last week, the Browns found themselves over .500, consistently competitive in what to this point has been a relatively brutal schedule, and legitimately in the conversation as a possible playoff team, or even a division winner. So what do they do? Of course they go to winless Jacksonville, and get smoked by the Jags, who finished the game scoring 24 unanswered points.

    Brian Hoyer struggled mightily in this game, and is probably shouldering the most blame around the country for the Browns' loss. He's been able to play great at times this year, but his inconsistency from game to game, and even quarter to quarter, is proving why he's been a career backup, and is likely to settle back into a role of NFL backup QB at some point in the near future. However, I think there's a bigger issue to the Browns' struggles on Sunday, and it may be a major issue for them the rest of the season. The loss of Alex Mack against Pittsburgh was huge, and historically, any team that has lost its starting center has struggled in the immediate aftermath of that injury. Mack is one of the best C's in the league, so his loss clearly had a major impact on Sunday. The Browns had been averaging nearly 150 yards rushing, and just under 4.5 yards per carry coming into last week's game, but were held by the Jags to 69 yards on 30 carries. Hoyer was inaccurate to say the least, completing less than 40% of his passes, including a bad miss of a wide open Jordan Cameron in the end zone. But considering the 3 TOs, 3 sacks, poor game from Hoyer, and the inept running game, perhaps the loss of Mack played a much bigger role than anyone could have envisioned.

    Oh, and speaking of backups. Kirk Cousins has proven himself to be exactly that, and that's exactly what he finds himself to be again. Can we now stop saying that the Redskins would be better off by turning the reins over to him, and getting rid of RGIII? Thanks!


    SL:I agree that Alex Mack's absence was a greater factor in Sunday's loss than Hoyer's performance. I disagree that he is in the ranks of 33rd-64th best QBs. I think he is right in the low 20s somewhere, and while he probably will follow a Flynn/Fitzpatrick path the next few years, he is definitely getting too much of the blame. Another big factor for Cleveland has been the injuries to Ahtyba Rubin and Phil Taylor. A weak middle makes life easy for the other guy's running backs. They will struggle until Thanksgiving.

    I was sorely disappointed in Cousins. I liked him a lot coming out and his play until this October made me feel good about myself. He has been mystifyingly bad on a half dozen plays every week. I agree, he has just put the finishing touches on a career as a backup, whether he has the ability to overcome it in the future or not.


    Random Thoughts With Scott:

    I am glad you mentioned the Alex Mack injury. That is the kind of thing that can sneak up on a team and wreck a season. A linchpin who doesn't play QB getting hurt mid-season is probably going to do more damage than one who gets injured in July. There is no longer a month for the next guy to get acclimated, and I think it has effectively ended Cleveland's hope for a playoff spot. The same might happen to Buffalo with Jackson, will probably happen to Philadelphia if Sproles doesn't come back full strength soon, has likely happened to Cincinnatti with AJ Green and Marvin Jones missing time, and has just happened in San Francisco with Patrick Willis and half their offensive line. Each team has lost or likely will soon lose a key matchup or winnable game (in Cleveland's case) due in large part to the unavailability of key contributors for a brief period of time, and I expect each of them to either miss the playoffs (Cleveland, San Francisco) or have a lower than expected seeding that will cost them due to Home Field Disadvantage or longer path to Super Bowl (Philly, Buffalo,Cincinnatti.)

    I have still not seen Austin Davis throw a pass. Am I missing out? He seems to be a savant from over here.

    Coaching matters in the NFL, and I make a weekly effort at dethroning the Buffalo coaches because I think they are holding the team back. (BW: I love your weekly Bills rants, by the way). I think the same is true in Tennessee, Miami, Washington, Tampa Bay, Pittsburgh (Haley,) and Cincinnatti. Teams that are seeing real dividends from their coaches include Arizona, New England, Green Bay, and Indianapolis. Denver has a cyborg playing QB, and you always knew Commander Data would rock in pro sports.


    BW: Don't sell short Tomlin's role in the Steeler mess. Granted, I say mess, and they sit at 4-3, but I cannot for the life of me figure out who they are. For 2 plus years they have been maddeningly inconsistent, losing way too many games as a favorite (as I chronicled a few weeks ago). They are just as likely to look dominant against a fringe playoff team like Houston, or even beat an Indy or San Diego, as they are to lose to Tampa, Oakland, or Tennessee. They also have a general lack of discipline, both in the penalties that they accrue each game, and in fundamentals. That speaks to coaching in a negative facet, and not just among the coordinators.

    All that said, I really liked the way they rebounded last night from that 13-0 deficit. Arian Foster had 92 yards on 11 carries at the midway point in the 2nd quarter when Houston went up 13-0. After that, the Steelers held him to 10 yards on 9 carries the rest of the way. Fitzpatrick was only sacked once, but they finally started to control the line of scrimmage, and started creating turnovers. The game reminded me of a MNF game back in 2008 between the Steelers and Ravens. The Steelers had been dominated the previous week by Philly (much like they were dominated last week by Cleveland). The Ravens jumped out to a 13-3 lead, and the Steelers looked awful. Late in the 3rd, Santonio Holmes made a big play to cut the lead to 3 (38 yd TD compared with the 35 yarder from Bryant last night), then LaMarr Woodley scored on a fumble recovery 13 seconds later to give them the lead. That night, the Steelers awoke, and eventually won the Super Bowl. I'm not predicting a Super Bowl for this team (anymore), but they clearly got their swagger back last night. I'm very curious to see how they respond this week against Indy.

    Interesting tidbit, from pro-football-reference. At the 6:27 mark of the 2nd quarter, following the JJ Watt sack to start the Steeler drive the ultimately ended in their first points of the game (FG), the Texans were 89.6% likely to win that game. By the time Houston was kneeling on the ball to end the half, the Steelers were suddenly 90.5% likely to win the game. Really, it was quite an unbelievable turnaround.


    The Fantasy Football Commish Report- Players due for a rebound

    QB- Matthew Stafford- after game in London vs. Falcons, 5 of next 7 games are in controlled environment, and Megatron will be back.
    QB- Nick Foles- Struggled a bit heading into bye, but has a very favorable schedule forthcoming, and players are consistently open all over the field.
    RB- Eddie Lacy- Flourished in the 2nd half of last season, and GB schedule is extremely favorable the rest of the way.
    RB- Mark Ingram- Looked very good prior to injury. Thomas is hurt, and schedule looks great.
    WR- Calvin Johnson- be patient. After week 9 bye, he should be fine. AJ Green's toe, however, could linger and limit his effectiveness.
    WR- Keenan Allen- Schedule isn't easy, but he's still hogging most of the targets in SD. I'll bet on the talent, especially at a cheap price.
    TE- Jordan Cameron- talent is too good to not have a big 2nd half impact.
    TE- Zach Ertz- Constantly open. Eventually, he's going to pop (sleeper play of the week vs. Arizona.)


    Week 8 Lookahead

    BW: San Diego proved last year that they can compete with Denver. Quietly, Philip Rivers is right alongside Manning and Luck in the 1st half MVP discussion, and that's with getting next to no production from his best WR, and being without his best RB since week 2. The Broncos just had an emotional win on Sunday night, giving them an extra quick turnaround. These Thursday games are a crapshoot, so give me the Super Chargers, because why not?

    We've got some 9:30 AM (ET) football on tap this week! Falcons-Lions from London as we eat our Fruit Loops. We talked about the value of losing a center earlier in this article, and the Falcons just lost theirs. Their reward? The nasty DL that's finally living up to its hype. Give me the Lions.

    What Steeler team shows up on Sunday, and does it matter? I'd argue that it does, because the good Steelers can compete with anyone. Problem is, even without Reggie Wayne, the Colts have plenty of weapons and there's no way the Steeler secondary can slow down Andrew Luck, especially with a lack of a pass rush. Plus, the Colts defense has been playing very well. While they don't completely shut down Pittsburgh, they do more than enough, as the Colts win by 10.

    Go ahead and close things out, Scott. What are you looking forward to this weekend?


    SL:

    Thank you for the opportunity. This is a hoot.

    There are 4 interesting games for me. First of course Buffalo. The Jets are the kind of team that can cause my guys fits. They have an escape-y QB, regardless of which one it is, they have solid running backs, and they have an excellent defensive front that will probably push the Bills into one-dimensional thinking. Buffalo has the talent edge, especially at the receiver positions, but the coaching is a hindrance in my book. I think it's going to be a tight game, and four turnovers by Buffalo without receiving 3 or 4 in return will spell doom. I think they hold onto the ball and squeak it out, 20-17.

    Shiniest and possibly best game is Thursday. Chargers travel, and the Broncos had a night game. I don't know if that's a wash, but is as close as I can come to finding an angle to support San Diego. Denver is playing too well right now, and they have the personnel and coaching skill to take advantage of the third or fourth Center that San Diego has had to put in front of Rivers. Come to think of it, that injury right there is probably going to be the thing that prevents San Diego from reaching the Super Bowl - they just cannot compete with top teams at that crucial position. Denver wins, 30-20.

    Bears at Patriots should be a fascinating and probably ugly game. Chicago has the talent to win in Foxboro, especially given the injuries crawling up on the Patriots right now. Chicago also has the focus and determination to miss the team bus. I am going with Chicago because Chandler Jones is going to miss the next few weeks and he is New England's only real difference maker in the front seven now that Mayo has lost a leg. Bears, 27-24.

    Eagles-Cardinals. Coming in, I thought these were two of the four best teams in the NFC (with Seattle and Chicago.) They are both dealing with problems, and they are both doing very well by the end of the fourths quarter. Arizona's defense has been stout even with key injuries and without Patrick Peterson playing well. Philly has been winning with balls and Sproles. Sproles is a little bit twinge-y this week. I think Arizona handles them at home, 21-17.

    And oh yeah, I think Atlanta is going to get embarrassed. Konz might have been the best on a bad line. Matt Ryan is going to ache on a long flight home. Lions 41-13.


    BW: I really can't argue with much of that, although I will say that I expect a few more points in the Phi-Ari game. The Cards defense can be opportunistic, but it's not a shutdown unit. Despite the talent, the Cards have struggled against the pass, particularly against TEs, and I can see Foles hooking up with Ertz for at least a score, and maybe 2. The Cards win, but add 10 points to both sides.


    Now, It's Your Turn!

    Great job, Scott! Good times! Thanks for filling in this week. FPeeps, the table has been set. Your week 8 Thread is now officially open for business. Enjoy the games!

    Comments 19 Comments
    1. Brian Williams's Avatar
      Did we just do an entire ZB without mentioning the Broncos performance last week, or Peyton Manning's record? Allow me to add a little commentary...

      Peyton Manning is really good.
    1. ScottDCP's Avatar
      Well, I did allude to his not being entirely human...
    1. brauneyz's Avatar
      We are Borg!

      And by that I mean, of course, the Pats, who will find a way to capitalize on bad JayJay, by plugging in this new dude Ayers and rockin' the house in Foxboro!

      (Or, it could totally go the other way ....)

      More later, guys, but just wanted to say awesome job on this week's ZB. Nice to see some new contributors. Fresh blood in the water and all that.
    1. ScottDCP's Avatar
      Thanks. I honestly think this will be the week Oakland avoids 0-16, but I don't want to pick against Cleveland.
    1. Bengals1181's Avatar
      Scott, sometimes I think you spell Cincinnati wrong on purpose.
    1. ScottDCP's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Bengals1181 View Post
      Scott, sometimes I think you spell Cincinnati wrong on purpose.
      Always If I use extra letters, I figure it feels better than if I leave somehting out. Doing it reminds me of Medavoy trying to spell Canadaigua on NYPD Blue, which makes me laugh.
    1. iwatt's Avatar
      I'm trying to drink less, and JayJay isn't helping that.
    1. Brian Williams's Avatar
      Of course I'm facing Emmanuel Sanders this week.
    1. Nancy's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Brian Williams View Post
      Of course I'm facing Emmanuel Sanders this week.
      Ugh. Me too. Emmanuel stomped all over my prized Philip Rivers points, then pointed and laughed. It's going to be a second really bad week in a row for me.
      Fantasy football is stupid. I quit. I'm putting the entire team on waivers. Of course, if AJ Green plays this week, and Jamaal Charles comes up with a big game against St. Louis, I might still pull out a victory. Maybe I'll quit next week

      I finally watched the Panthers get smacked around by GB. Once again, the defensive backfield looked like a pee-wee team; frankly, the front line didn't look much better--outside of Kuechly and Davis, the kids just cannot tackle. I watched Denver Sunday night and last night and the difference in speed, coverage and tackling technique between the Broncos and the Panthers...well, that level of disparity should not exist in the NFL. That secondary has gotten by on pass rush and turnovers and when the rush is weak and they don't get the turnovers, it all goes to hell in a handbasket. I'd love to see them bounce back against Seattle, but just don't see it happening.

      Brian: do you think Pittsburgh has turned that corner that Pittsburgh always seems to turn at some point in the season? They looked pretty spry last week, the offense looked as though it was coming together, and they are at home this week. The Colts are doing pretty much everything right lately, and if this game were at Lucas Oil I'd feel more confident; Wayne, Walden and Richardson are all probably out this week, and as much as I've kvetched about Richardson, he's been good for a lot of really tough, grind-it-out yardage this season. This game makes me very nervous.

      Probably won't get to see the Bengals-Ravens game, which I hate because it's usually a slugfest and I do love me a good slugfest. I'm not ready to concede the season, at all. The Colts are almost as hot as the Broncos right now, and the Bengals are still pretty hard up injury-wise. I don't believe they are nearly as bad as they looked last week and they are at home. Not sure what they can do against the Ravens' defense at this point, but they did put up 37 points just 2 weeks ago...;
    1. Brian Williams's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Nancy View Post
      Ugh. Me too. Emmanuel stomped all over my prized Philip Rivers points, then pointed and laughed. It's going to be a second really bad week in a row for me.
      Fantasy football is stupid. I quit. I'm putting the entire team on waivers. Of course, if AJ Green plays this week, and Jamaal Charles comes up with a big game against St. Louis, I might still pull out a victory. Maybe I'll quit next week

      I finally watched the Panthers get smacked around by GB. Once again, the defensive backfield looked like a pee-wee team; frankly, the front line didn't look much better--outside of Kuechly and Davis, the kids just cannot tackle. I watched Denver Sunday night and last night and the difference in speed, coverage and tackling technique between the Broncos and the Panthers...well, that level of disparity should not exist in the NFL. That secondary has gotten by on pass rush and turnovers and when the rush is weak and they don't get the turnovers, it all goes to hell in a handbasket. I'd love to see them bounce back against Seattle, but just don't see it happening.

      Brian: do you think Pittsburgh has turned that corner that Pittsburgh always seems to turn at some point in the season? They looked pretty spry last week, the offense looked as though it was coming together, and they are at home this week. The Colts are doing pretty much everything right lately, and if this game were at Lucas Oil I'd feel more confident; Wayne, Walden and Richardson are all probably out this week, and as much as I've kvetched about Richardson, he's been good for a lot of really tough, grind-it-out yardage this season. This game makes me very nervous.

      Probably won't get to see the Bengals-Ravens game, which I hate because it's usually a slugfest and I do love me a good slugfest. I'm not ready to concede the season, at all. The Colts are almost as hot as the Broncos right now, and the Bengals are still pretty hard up injury-wise. I don't believe they are nearly as bad as they looked last week and they are at home. Not sure what they can do against the Ravens' defense at this point, but they did put up 37 points just 2 weeks ago...;
      Not only did he have Sanders, he also had Hillman and Gates, so I've got a pretty big hole to climb out of. Thankfully, the Broncos decided not to give Hillman the ball on those two 1-yard TD runs.

      Based on my history, this statement may be shocking to some, but I think the Bengals will be fine, and I have absolutely no idea on the Steelers.

      I thought the Steelers had turned the corner in that Carolina game. Then Tampa happened, they looked sluggish against Jacksonville, and they were blown out by Cleveland. Suddenly, they get their swagger back a bit against Houston (admittedly on some freakishly fluky plays to end the 1st half), and I have no idea what's going on. I want to say that yes, they've turned a corner. I really do. They do generally play better at home (the Tampa game notwithstanding), but the M.O. for the past couple of years has been inconsistency, a lack of discipline, and a defense that can no longer make explosive plays.

      Honestly, it wouldn't shock me to see them beat Indy, beat Baltimore, then lose to the Titans on MNF. I watch them all the time, and I cannot figure out what they'll do on a weekly basis. It will take weeks of consistent play to break me from that mindset.

      Indy is banged up, but they're playing too well, especially on defense. I fully expect Bradshaw to have success, Luck to continually find Hilton and Allen, and the defense to continue to play well. I do not think the Steelers are winning that game on Sunday.
    1. Brian Williams's Avatar
      DeMarco Murray has addressed his improved durability. I put the odds on him getting hurt Monday night at roughly 98.6%.

      http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...s-with-witten/
    1. Patrick Sullivan's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Brian Williams View Post
      DeMarco Murray has addressed his improved durability. I put the odds on him getting hurt Monday night at roughly 98.6%.

      http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...s-with-witten/
      Gimme the over.
    1. Brian Williams's Avatar
      Ben Roethlisberger is the first player in NFL history with 2 career 500+ yard games.

      40-49 (81.6%), 522/6/0. Especially considering the effectiveness of the Colts pass defense coming into the game, which was ranked #2 by football outsiders coming into today (and was the toughest against QBs in fantasy), this is one of the greatest single-game performances by a QB in NFL history. More in the week 9 ZB.
    1. Nancy's Avatar
      More in the week 9 ZB.
      No, I think we should cease all discussion of this game immediately. We're on to the Giants.
    1. Brian Williams's Avatar
      Fantasy football tidbit.

      So I start Ben, Antonio Brown, Jeremy Maclin, Randall Cobb, and Demaryius Thomas. Ben, Brown, and Maclin alone combined for 157. I still have DeMarco Murray tonight. I currently have 235 points, which is the 2nd highest total in league history heading into this week, and still have Murray left.

      Other dude starts Sanders, Hillman, and Gates on Thursday, then has Brees, Forte, Bell, LaFell, Fitz, Crosby, and Bills defense yesterday. He ended things with 270 points.

      I still need 35 points from Murray tonight to pull off the win.
    1. brauneyz's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Nancy View Post
      No, I think we should cease all discussion of this game immediately. We're on to the Giants.

      How Belichickian of you!

      Girl, you always make me giggle.
    1. Matt Kocsan's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Brian Williams View Post
      Fantasy football tidbit.

      So I start Ben, Antonio Brown, Jeremy Maclin, Randall Cobb, and Demaryius Thomas. Ben, Brown, and Maclin alone combined for 157. I still have DeMarco Murray tonight. I currently have 235 points, which is the 2nd highest total in league history heading into this week, and still have Murray left.

      Other dude starts Sanders, Hillman, and Gates on Thursday, then has Brees, Forte, Bell, LaFell, Fitz, Crosby, and Bills defense yesterday. He ended things with 270 points.

      I still need 35 points from Murray tonight to pull off the win.
      ...are you in a four-man league, or something?
    1. Brian Williams's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Matt Kocsan View Post

      ...are you in a four-man league, or something?
      10, we each get 1 keeper (mine was Brown, his was Lev Bell. My team is ridiculous. His is good, but even his scrubs were going off.

      I even have Greg Olsen, who did nothing, and imagine if I started Mark Ingram over Ben Tate...

      Oh, and this is the league where I passed on Andrew Luck in rd 4 for Spiller. Although yesterday, that would have hurt me.
    1. Nancy's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by brauneyz View Post
      How Belichickian of you!

      Girl, you always make me giggle.
      Thanks, Brauneyz...I've been a Bengals fan for 40 years, a Colts fan since the "Dickerson left, Dickerson right, Dickerson up the middle" days, and a Panthers fan since '95. If I lost my sense of humor, I'd go off a bridge. But at least I'd go to SF and jump off a pretty one.

      Brian Williams
      Fantasy football tidbit.

      So I start Ben, Antonio Brown, Jeremy Maclin, Randall Cobb, and Demaryius Thomas. Ben, Brown, and Maclin alone combined for 157. I still have DeMarco Murray tonight. I currently have 235 points, which is the 2nd highest total in league history heading into this week, and still have Murray left.

      Other dude starts Sanders, Hillman, and Gates on Thursday, then has Brees, Forte, Bell, LaFell, Fitz, Crosby, and Bills defense yesterday. He ended things with 270 points.

      I still need 35 points from Murray tonight to pull off the win.
      Sanders and Gates killed me this week..but the real rub was Larry Fitzgerald. I stuck with him all season--know he's a little long of tooth, but I'm thinking, Larry's eventually gonna get his catches. Finally had enough this week and started my last chance guy, Edelman. Larry did me so wrong....and of course, the Pats score 51 points and Edelman grabs one lousy pass. Not a great week.