• Wagers and Lagers, Special Edition: A Brady--Goodell Snarkapalooza


    MK: You probably know this by now, but Tom Brady may or may not have been involved in a vast conspiracy to moderately affect the air pressure within these things called footballs during the AFC Championship Game, and as a result has been suspended by the NFL for the first four games of the season. Oh, you did know that? Well, I'm glad we're on the same page. I mean, I suppose people on the internet have been talking about it.

    The responses have been funny1...


    ...and sometimes philosophical2...


    ...but mostly they've been your garden variety MY TEAM RULES, YOUR TEAM SUCKS takes that we all know and love so much.

    We're just as tired of this story as you are, so we're going to get all of it out of our system now, once and for all. With Brian pinch hitting for the Big Man this week, Rich and I have put together a very special, extraordinarily snarky edition of Wagers & Lagers, in which we provide early picks for the first four games of the Patriots' season, which at least as of this writing will be played without quarterback Tom Brady, and give you what will doubtless be our worst gametime grub and libation suggestions we ever publish.

    I really hope these picks aren't used as some sort of tie-breaker when we end up knotted up around the Super Bowl.

    WEEK 1: Steelers at Patriots
    Thursday, September 10, 8:30 ET

    RG: Alright, I'll get this party started. I assume that we are making picks based on the idea that Brady will miss the first four games of the season. I want to state my current feelings on the whole DeflateGate matter before moving on to the picks. I am disgusted by the whole thing. The incident itself was small. The process to decide it has been bloated, emotional, and big. I am mad at everybody for decreasing my excitement over the upcoming season. Instead, I have to continuously complain about a guy who is in an office too big for him (Goodell). I have to complain that even though Tom Brady is guilty of something on a day we could have been talking about the first female coach in the league and the return of Eric Berry. I give these short messages to each side of the DeflateGate case:

    Tom Brady Apologists: Sorry, the dude is guilty. Of what? Not sure. Did it help him much? Not sure. My gut says it probably did not help him very much. I've thrown a lot of footballs in my life. Decreasing the air by 7% isn't going to do a ton. It would, however, make it slightly harder to throw a spiral. Is it possible that Hoodie and Brady are crazy enough to figure out the exact PSI needed so Brady is most efficient in the offense? Maybe. Still, I doubt it is much more than a comfort thing. Tom Brady is no different than any other athlete. There is always an edge and everyone who is elite will try to obtain an edge in an attempt to separate themselves from the pack. TB12 is guilty of being an elite athlete and guilty of doing something. The supposed lack of information provided was one smoking gun in this case. We knew that on May 12. It is hard to refute the cell phone report. It is also hard to explain how Brady still had the phone he used before the one he eventually destroyed. My source on that is the 20 page letter released by the NFL yesterday. Don't worry, though. Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Tony Romo and all the rest of the quarterbacks in the league are doing something as well. We just don't know what it is.

    Tom Brady Haters: I'm not sure what I can tell you. You are happy as larks. Still, if you have a favorite team, I'll remind of this: Someone on your team is cheating. I must warn you, though, an angry Belichick doesn't seem like a fun guy.

    League Bashers: Harumph. This whole thing is a joke. A pointless mountain out of a molehill.

    As for the game itself, I hope that everyone gets reminded that weed is only half as bad as a needle. Anyway, even though I don't personally root for the Patriots, I am expecting this to be some sort of middle-finger-in-the-air tour for the gents from New England. In this contest, the Patriots will win by trading for Darrelle Revis before the game for a bag of mattress warning labels that the Patriots weren't supposed to remove. Revis shuts down the entire Pittsburgh offense on his own while Bell misses the game for getting popped for buying a bag of oregano from a Pats staffer before the game. New England rolls 31-3. People write for days about what the Jets can use the mattress labels for before Manish Mehta reminds everyone that they are the Jets. PICK: Pats

    BW: MATTRESSGATE!!! I smell scandal. Rule 73.35 clearly states that the illegal removing of mattress tags, for any reason, results in an Eleventy Million dollar fine, the loss of one 1st round draft choice for five consecutive seasons, immediate franchise relocation/stadium implosion, public toenail hanging of owner/coach/quarterback, and the forfeiture of one game. Pittsburgh wins, 2-0.

    It really is a shame that this game won’t be played as scheduled, mainly because the Steelers have only won 2 games in Foxborough since 1979. One of those wins came in OT in 1997, which was the difference in giving the Steelers home field over New England for what turned out to be a scintillating 7-6 victory in the division round of the playoffs that season. The other came in the form of a 2008 33-10 beatdown, when Matt Cassel was filling in for Tom Brady, who in the first game that season, illegally thrust his knee into the helmet of Bernard Pollard, and was subsequently suspended for the entire 2008 season. Pittsburgh won the Super Bowl that season. PICK: Steelers

    MK: Like Rich, I too would like address some core constituencies in the I-Care-Way-Too-Much-About-Deflategate/Ballghazi/Whatever-We’re-Calling-It:

    University of Michigan Fans: Perhaps if your football team was actually good again, you would be able to do something more rational than defending some guy who split time with Drew Henson at quarterback at your school fifteen years ago because it’s an essential part of your identity.

    Fans of NFL Teams with Bad Quarterbacks: Perhaps if your football team was actually good again/ever, you would be less butthurt about other teams having good quarterbacks. (Note: I know I certainly would be.)

    People Who Want to Compare Every NFL Suspension: We’ve all done this in our heads. We know it doesn’t make sense. I mean, I guess you can still do it, as long as you don’t act like this is some unique factoid that you’ve discovered, which is the impression that I get from the people talking about this a lot. It also works better when you don’t compare the suspension for someone doing something truly awful to someone who got suspended on your favorite team or when the player is someone you clearly adore.

    The fact that Le’Veon Bell is suspended for the opener makes this slightly less than a slam dunk, but Pittsburghers should consider this one last, enduring gift from former Steeler runningback LeGarrette Blount, who—come to think of it—is now a New England Patriot. When Bill Belichick said the other day that the Brady suspension had already been planned for, he obviously meant that he anticipated opening the season against the Steelers and colluded with Blount, using him to conduct a black ops mission to get Bell suspended in the interest of keeping this game competitive.

    Still, has anyone thought about how fun this will be? The Patriots get to open the season at home, celebrating their Super Bowl title, and is Tom Brady even allowed on the sidelines? For those of us who don’t particularly enjoy Boston fans—and who does, really?—this is like five pounds of lobster meat for free. The drawn butter, of course, will be watching Bill Simmons periscope his personal meltdown before, during, and after the game.

    The awful thing is this game is actually could go a long way toward determining home-field advantage in the playoffs. Don’t overthink this, though. PICK: Steelers

    WEEK 2: Patriots at Bills
    Sunday, September 20, 1:00 ET

    RG: Before the game, the Patriots release a whole slew of new foot fetish videos. In awe; and unable to look away, Rex Ryan forgets to make defensive calls for the entire game. E.J. Manuel tries to call plays from the actual playbook on the field when he doesn't understand the calls coming in. The playbook is stolen by Dont'a Hightower before Gronk hides it for good. The Pats win 35-6. Two months later, a new edition of the Gronk romance novel series features a young lady stripping off parts of a Buffalo Bills playbook. The movie is made and "based on a true story." It makes $300 Million at the box office. The author donates a portion of her rights fees in order to pay for "any current and future fines incurred by the New England Patriots Football Club." PICK: Pats

    BW: Citing the brisk mid-September Buffalo weather, Jimmy Garoppolo is equipped with a ski mask to start the game. Just after the opening kickoff, Bill Belichick animatedly calls Referee Earl Hebner over to the sideline to complain about a possible sideline infraction by the Bills. As the other officials also find their attention drawn to the NE sideline, Garoppolo breaks out what appears to be a needle, quickly deflating each of the Patriots’ game balls. Completely oblivious to the situation, Hebner returns to the field, and the game continues with Garoppolo on absolute fire, looking Brady-like in completing his first 12 passes for 160 yards and 2 scores, giving the Pats an early 14-0 lead. Following the 2nd TD, the sounds of Jay-Z’s “Public Service Announcement” can be heard throughout the stadium. As the song fully kicks in, “Allow me to re-introduce myself, my name is HOV!” CBS special guest announcer Jim Ross screams into the mic, “Wait, isn’t that… that’s TOM BRADY’S MUSIC!!!” However, Brady never appears.

    At the start of the 2nd quarter, Garoppolo finally throws his first incompletion, a pick 6 off a catchable ball that was surprisingly dropped by Rob Gronkowski. Following the play, an animated Garoppolo is seen berating Gronk on the sideline. In the ensuing scrum, Gronk drags Garoppolo out to mid-field, finishes him off with “The Gronkinator”, then rips off his helmet and ski mask to reveal his real identity—TOM BRADY! Gronk then rips off his own jersey to reveal a Bills jersey as a cackling Rex Ryan joins him at midfield, raises his arm, and the 72,000-plus at Ralph Wilson stadium erupt and the home team pours it on, 42-14. PICK: Bills

    MK: I, um… am starting to get the feeling that I’m the only person who’s making the picks seriously. Legitimately, that Bills defense is good, and Rex Ryan—whatever his faults—is very good at getting a team up to play the Pats. I do believe that New England will be favored in this game, though, even following a loss to the Steelers and in spite of the traditional three-points-to-the-home-team Vegas typically grants.

    Again, seriously, I would like to predict a really terrible, self-pitying Dan Shaughnessy column to follow this result. PICK: Bills

    WEEK 3: Jaguars at Patriots
    Sunday, September 27, 1:00 ET

    RG: Despite a lot more talent on the field for the Jaguars than in previous years, Bill Belichick orchestrates a classic game plan of his to confuse Jacksonville's young quarterback. A particular set of stunts are found to work well for the Pats defense. Blake Bortles is sacked four times and struggles, going 13-30 for 156 yards with two interceptions. On the other side of the ball, a potent running game lightens the load for Jimmy Garoppolo. New England controls the game, rushing over 40 times on their way to an efficient 21-10 victory. PICK: Pats

    BW: With Bill Belichick and Tom Brady now suspended for life, and Gronk now playing in Buffalo, Josh McDaniels has taken over for the LA Patriots (forced to relocate following MattressGate). Jacksonville travels to the StubHub Center in Carson in the midst of a 16 game road trip, caused by the continued fallout from the massive summer storms/sharknados that swept through the East Coast, destroying every major city from Washington D.C. to Orlando, Florida. Despite some massive jet lag, the Patriots have no chance, getting pounded 38-3, as the NFL has now assigned former David Stern henchman Joey Crawford to ref all remaining Pats games. PICK: Jags

    MK: I mean, I know I just picked the Bills, but have we adequately considered that in two of these four games, Jimmy Garoppolo may still be a better quarterback than what the opposition is fielding? He could be, and maybe this is also an opportunity to remind New England fans of just how many of them were calling for Jimmy to get a chance to start in the aftermath of Tom Brady’s abysmal performance on Monday Night Football last season against the Kansas City Chiefs. (Pro-tip: if you go to twitter, and search NFL PLAYER NAME + BENCH, you’re going to get a lot of insufferable people talking about their fantasy football teams.)

    I’m expecting that kind of pass-rushing game out of the Bills at home, and while the Jaguars have been quietly building a sound defensive line to get after the quarterback, I do not have faith in Blake Bortles. I do, however, have faith in the Jaguars’ mascot, but he does not play actual football. Pick: Patriots

    WEEK 5: Patriots at Cowboys
    Sunday, October 11, 4:25 ET

    RG: Before the game, New England trades for Tim Tebow. Chip Kelly and the Eagles get a new wave heart transponder thing-a-majig that shows exactly how fast a team with little talent can find itself in the basement of their division. The joke is on Chip, though. Hoodie and the gang sends him nothing more than a treadmill with a microwave attached to it. Inspired by a trip to one of the largest churches in the world, Tebow throws like Job (the Bible mentions his terrific arm). The former Bronco-Patriot-Jet-Eagle has the game of his career, combining for seven total touchdowns (4 passing, 3 rushing). The Cowboys offense is a worthy opponent all game, trying to keep up. Amazingly, the Cowboys lose when Dez Bryant is ruled to not catch a ball on a play eerily similar to the one against Green Bay in last year's playoffs. New England wins 49-45. The next day, Tebow retires and takes over Joel Osteen's congregation. PICK: Pats

    BW: Leading into this game, Jimmy Garoppolo is suspended after it is revealed that he didn’t wear the proper league-mandated bandage for an in-grown fingernail. With the Pats now forced to start 3rd stringer Matt Flynn, Dallas coasts to a 24-0 lead thanks to 3 Tony Romo-Dez Bryant TD connections. Early in the 4th, Romo throws a pick 6, which along with the 2-pt conversion, cuts the Dallas lead to 24-8. Romo’s next dropback is déjà vu, and suddenly the Pats are within one score. With under 2 minutes remaining and the Patriots out of timeouts, Romo attempts to execute a kneeldown, but fumbles the snap, which the Pats return for a TD. Following another conversion, the score is now tied at 24. As Phil Simms discusses how ridiculous it is to put the blame on Romo, his next pass is intercepted. Joseph Randle makes a game-saving tackle, but the Pats have the ball inside the Cowboy 25. Just when it seems that not even Joey Crawford can prevent this victory, the Pats lineup to attempt the game-winning FG, but Greg Hardy, in his first game back from suspension, busts through the line, blocks the kick, and returns it to the house as the clock expires for a 31-24 final. Pick: Cowboys

    MK: OH GOD. After Hardy scores that game-winning touchdown, right, and is celebrating on the field, the game producer would need the wisdom of Solomon to choose between the appropriate shot to juxtapose with it. Is it:

    (A) Jerry Jones’s luxury box, hideously backlit and possibly showing him seated with Roger Goodell, as Chris Christie goes in for the hug
    (B) Tom Brady, similarly backlit, with Giselle, Kraft, and—I’m assuming—a bottle of Sauternes in the picture

    In all seriousness, Dallas is good. I could see a 1-3 start out of the Patriots. Of course, the Dolphins and the Bills aren’t really any better than 7-9, no matter what anyone tells you they see in Ryan Tannehill, and the Jets are one of those teams that even Browns look at and be like, ‘Well, at least it’s not that.’ So, after that start, they win the division and still get a home game on Wild Card weekend, probably stomp the Colts in the divisional round, and set up AFC Conference Championship date with a team, like, say, Pittsburgh at Heinz Field. I’m just spitballing here.

    And that’s why this both does and doesn’t matter, just like... WAIT FOR IT… a controversy over whether footballs were properly inflated during the AFC Championship Game. Pick: Cowboys

    DON'T GET FAT, TOM

    I don’t know, probably some grilled chicken, I guess? That’s healthy, I think.

    EXTENDED VACATION COCKTAILS

    MK: The extended vacay cocktail of choice, I think, in light of recent revelations about Tom Brady’s phone destruction, is the Kriegerita, brought to you by FX’s comedy, Archer, because I wanted to write about something I actually like in this column. That’s more or less a Margarita—five ingredients: tequila, Cointreau, lime juice, ice, kosher salt—except…


    Okay, I'm done, I think.

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    1 You can read this comic at thedrawplay.com, or follow the artist @DrawPlayDave on twitter.
    2 Hat-tip to @LostLettermen for screenshotting this gem from Tailgating/American hero, Mike Leach, via @Mark_Schlabach.

    Rich Gapinski, Brian Williams, and Matt Kocsan are Staff Writers at FootballPros. Next offseason, they will begin filming a re-make of The Three Amigos, in which they ride flamingos instead of horses. None of them, however, has improperly deflated, or conspired to improperly deflate, balls. You can follow them on twitter at @PguyPodcast (Rich), @FPCommish (Brian), and @kocsan (Matt).

    Comments 112 Comments
    1. Brian Williams's Avatar
      According to PFT, Chris Mortensen is speaking with WEEI tomorrow morning regarding his initial erroneous report that the PSI levels in 11 of 12 balls were at least 2 psi below the acceptable limit. As Florio accurately states, it's this report that put Brady and the Patriots on their heels from the beginning.

      It is highly unlikely that Mort reveals his source in that interview, but if he eventually decides to break protocol and reveal the source, or at least admits that his source was someone from within the league office, under the justification that this inside source attempted to destroy his credibility by intentionally using him with a blatant lie/exaggeration, wouldn't that give Tom Brady an extra boost heading into the appeal process?

      See... now I'm sucked into this mess, and I really don't want to care about the specifics. Can't we just get to the games already?
    1. hobbes27's Avatar
      Oh don't worry, I expect there to be more twist and turns before all is said and done. This is a soap opera that never ends. Both sides have provided lots of entertainment at their incompetence and I expect both sides to continue to do so.
    1. Patrick Sullivan's Avatar
      Hogwash. All of it.

      The NFLPA and the Brady camp got snookered but good. They most likely expected an announcement later in the week. The preemptive New York-based lawsuit filing by the league was - I have to admit - a masterstroke. They had a decided advantage. The league knew when they were going to make the announcement and rolled the dice on not getting Doty in Minny. All sevens. Gotta give them some props. Ballsy as hell and it paid off.

      That said, The PA still has, IMO, a strong case. The initial investigation was, to say the least, a joke. And that's being pretty kind. But Roger Goodell and his marketing chumps needed a bull**** offseason story to push, so they ran with this nonsense. In the process, the NFL made a mockery of its own rules.

      Wait. Did I just call what the league has done a "process"?


      Yes, I did. Perhaps the league uses "process" as a verb.

      ??

      Hrmmmm...

      WEEK 1: Steelers at Patriots
      Thursday, September 10, 8:30 ET

      PS: In an audacious move, the NFL decides it has not yet done enough to punish the Patriots. They decide to "process" Ben Roethlisberger by feeding him a chemical cocktail that turns him into Frankenberger the Quarterback. Frankie goes nuts for 7 TDs passing and 1 with his legs. He eats two Patriots defenders alive, gnawing on their appendages (he likes dark meat, after all) in the end zone. The Patriots are ineffective all game offensively with Jimmy Garropolo throwing six INTs and 0 TDs while fumbling twice. What? The new guy replacing possibly the best QB of all time can't have a slight case of the jitters? While he has the game of his afterlife going, Frankie can't stop trying to eat opposing players. After a number of personal fouls imposed because of an on-the-fly rule mandated by King Fraudger six minutes into the first quarter, the Steelers find themselves sitting at first and 95+ on three occasions. Bill Belichick's brilliance is on full display as the Pats notch three safeties for their only scores in this game. Final score: 56-6. Ouch. Pick: Steelers

      Pathetic, all the way around.

      {Oh, and Matt, it's Henson not Hanson.}

      No. Seriously.

      {}
    1. Patrick Sullivan's Avatar
      WEEK 2: Patriots at Bills
      Sunday, September 20, 1:00 ET

      In an ongoing effort to smear and marginalize the Patriots dynasty, King Fraudger convinces Rex Ryan to set his own definition of the Ideal Gas Law. Rexy does not disappoint his master. He is, after all, in Buffalo now. Rexy settles on the following combination of pregame eats in order to maximize his output:

      - 17 pounds hot wings
      - 56 celery sticks, raw
      - 39 carrot sticks, also raw
      - 19.25 oz. bleu cheese dressing
      - 1.33 gallons Natty Light

      During warm-ups, Rexy tells his team of his plans. He shares his Ideal Gas Law conclusions by unleashing what can only be called an earth shattering fart that makes the field quake. Marcel Dareus is so impressed he runs out to the nearest wing joint and copies his coach's pregame ritual. Stinking of rot-gut beer with wing sauce slathered on his cheeks, Dareus has the game of his life recording four safeties in the first half. Neither offense can generate any points, so King Fraudger, three minutes into the second half, institutes a new rule making earth-shattering farts a 37-yard penalty. Rexy lets one go anyway after a league source leaks a report saying the new fart rule will only be called against the Patriots. Rexy and his thunderbutt force Jimmy Garoppolo to fumble for the ninth time this season. Dareus continues his gas-fueled rampage netting five more safeties and nine sacks in the second half. Good thing, too. The Bills offense is ineffectual all game (because, EJ Manuel). Dareus' ninth safety comes on a blocked punt where he unleashes the Silent But Deadly technique to rush the punter. Marcel pulls apart his butt cheeks and uses the now unimpeded thrust of his bowel torch to blow by the long snapper. As he flies over the punter, Dareus absorbs the ball into his gut and lands in the end zone. The ball squirts out in an apparent loss of possession. After three hours of debate on Twitter (and 97 commercials), VP of officiating Dean Blandino and referee Joey Crawford rule this punt block a catch and uphold the safety call. Interesting. The league does not understand its own rules. Who knew? Final score: 18-0 Pick: Bills
    1. Patrick Sullivan's Avatar
      More later...
    1. Matt Kocsan's Avatar
      The only good thing about this whole saga is that I think I've learned how to spell Garoppolo. Probably.
    1. ScottDCP's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Matt Kocsan View Post
      The only good thing about this whole saga is that I think I've learned how to spell Garoppolo. Probably.
      You think you have, but does anyone truly know?
    1. Brian Williams's Avatar
      AND... Mort backed out of his interview this morning
    1. Andy Freeland's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Matt Kocsan View Post
      The only good thing about this whole saga is that I think I've learned how to spell Garoppolo. Probably.
      and I've learned how to spell Jimmmy. Possibly. Maybe not.
    1. hobbes27's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Matt Kocsan View Post
      The only good thing about this whole saga is that I think I've learned how to spell Garoppolo. Probably.
      And we get to see who is the best Eastern Illinois QB in Week 5. Romo or that backup from New England who I can't spell.
    1. darvon's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Andy Freeland View Post
      and I've learned how to spell Jimmmy. Possibly. Maybe not.
      By Jimminy you have!!!
    1. darvon's Avatar
      I am a pats hater, but I am rooting for them to go 19-0 this year.

      We all know there are 3 basic tenets of this suspension:

      1) The owners finally get to turn the knife on the Pats, who keep beating them by being smarter and flaunting it.

      2) The League gets to show that it isn't just country club preppies punishing punks from the 'hood, a sentiment which has been swirling for awhile.

      3) The League gets to show that if you don't confess and you don't self-incriminate, the punishment goes nuclear. A useful reminder as we wade into the DV zone. Remind me, who was the #1 draft pick this year???

      All of which have nothing to do with the Ideal Gas Law. (Motto: "Ideal Gas...it's not just a good idea...it's the Law")

      Also, did Brady pick up an endorsement deal with Apple?
    1. Matt Kocsan's Avatar
      Somehow not THE ONION: Junior Gallette, recently cut by the New Orleans Saints, tells a DC radio station after signing with the Redskins that he's 'thankful to be with such a functional organization.' That's a direct quote.

      LINK to the New Orleans Times-Pic: http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf...medium=twitter
    1. Matt Kocsan's Avatar
      Since I'm just tossing open thread things here for consumption, the CFL is on over on ESPN2 right now. Edmonton against Saskatchewan, which will feel like a college football bizarro world to you, probably.
    1. Patrick Sullivan's Avatar
    1. mikesteelnation1's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Sullivan View Post
      The NFL - due to its own utter incompetence - had no legit reason to even be suspicious, Mike. That's the whole point.

      @Rich - maybe its time to close this thread and move the discussion to the new W&L?
      The league had reason to be suspicious biggie. 2 other teams reported what they thought was an issue. Then the report of the ball deflation as measured during the game. Remember, it's not a court of law. Nothing needs to be proven past "more reasonable than not". No forensic or physics experts get involved in employment issues, EVER (I guess unless the employer is one of forensics or physics experts).

      This is what's pissing me off. It's not a criminal case, never will be, never has to be. It's a matter of employment law. Too many, including you applying that filter to it. That's why Minnesota kicked the fed case. They know it's a turd and they don't want to sully their stellar record of taking on the big, bad NFL and siding with their opponents.

      With the info the league had it launched an investigation that unearthed the other stuff that made it completely impossible for anyone with a fully functioning brain to believe that Brady wasn't willfully involved in what he was accused of by 2 separate teams at the start of the entire fiasco.

      It's an employment issue, one bound by the CBA. One that the league has followed, that crybrady hasn't. He's no legs to stand on challenging the punishment. It's why Doty kicked it to another court under the guise of having "no ties " to the case. I promise you if the case had a chance of being a winner, it would have been heard in Doty 's court.

      I'm sorry but the Patriots have a culture of cheating. One crybrady has willingly played a part in for a very long time. He did what he was accused of according to employment law, as you apply the CBA in this situation.

      This entire fiasco has been further fueled by crybrady and kraft being delta bravo's to the nth degree mixed with poor reporting by the media, multiplied by too many that don't understand the differences between criminal vs employment law.

      All that poor reporting and misnformation was reasonably believable enough at the time to launch the investigation that led to the info we have now that shows crybrady played a part.

      We all know he did, my question is why is anyone enraged about it? The system is designed to catch cheaters. That's exactly what it did here. Perhaps it didn't do so in most straight line way, but It did...

      The league isn't incompetent, not even a little. They do exactly what they do for a reason. One bound by the CBA...
    1. Patrick Sullivan's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by mikesteelnation1 View Post
      The league had reason to be suspicious biggie. 2 other teams reported what they thought was an issue. Then the report of the ball deflation as measured during the game. Remember, it's not a court of law. Nothing needs to be proven past "more reasonable than not". No forensic or physics experts get involved in employment issues, EVER (I guess unless the employer is one of forensics or physics experts).

      This is what's pissing me off. It's not a criminal case, never will be, never has to be. It's a matter of employment law. Too many, including you applying that filter to it. That's why Minnesota kicked the fed case. They know it's a turd and they don't want to sully their stellar record of taking on the big, bad NFL and siding with their opponents.

      With the info the league had it launched an investigation that unearthed the other stuff that made it completely impossible for anyone with a fully functioning brain to believe that Brady wasn't willfully involved in what he was accused of by 2 separate teams at the start of the entire fiasco.

      It's an employment issue, one bound by the CBA. One that the league has followed, that crybrady hasn't. He's no legs to stand on challenging the punishment. It's why Doty kicked it to another court under the guise of having "no ties " to the case. I promise you if the case had a chance of being a winner, it would have been heard in Doty 's court.

      I'm sorry but the Patriots have a culture of cheating. One crybrady has willingly played a part in for a very long time. He did what he was accused of according to employment law, as you apply the CBA in this situation.

      This entire fiasco has been further fueled by crybrady and kraft being delta bravo's to the nth degree mixed with poor reporting by the media, multiplied by too many that don't understand the differences between criminal vs employment law.

      All that poor reporting and misnformation was reasonably believable enough at the time to launch the investigation that led to the info we have now that shows crybrady played a part.

      We all know he did, my question is why is anyone enraged about it? The system is designed to catch cheaters. That's exactly what it did here. Perhaps it didn't do so in most straight line way, but It did...

      The league isn't incompetent, not even a little. They do exactly what they do for a reason. One bound by the CBA...
      Mike, you are correct on all fronts. However, you are ignoring the simple fact that the league had no business digging in anyone's backyard other than their own. I'll repeat - until I am blue in the face - the NFL had no business investigating ball inflation. The league had no established procedures or calibration standards by which to assess the veracity of the Ravens' and Colts' claims. Instead of saying "Man, we gotta do better, here. Our control over the football inflation levels sucks", the NFL has - through disinformation and an undoubtedly BIASED multi-million dollar "investigation" - levied unprecedented penalties against one of its member clubs and, possibly, its greatest QB ever.

      So much bull****. Look in the mirror first. Address your own issues.

      #FireKingFraudger
    1. Patrick Sullivan's Avatar
      From Frank Schwab over at Shutdown Corner: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...163804158.html

      [T]he NFL doesn't even really know how and if their footballs can deflate. In explaining the new procedures for marking air pressure of balls before a game (again, if this was The Biggest Deal In NFL History, the league wouldn't have waited 95 seasons to implement this procedure), Central Region supervisor of officials Gary Slaughter said footballs could have a slow leak and officials wouldn't know, according to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review's Mark Kaboly.

      "These are man-made products,” Slaughter said, according to the Tribune-Review. “There is a bladder and a valve. We have all checked them for many years. Sometimes when you check the ball in the locker room right out of the box, there could be a problem. They could have a slow leak, and you wouldn't even know it at the time.”
      None of this is too mind-blowing, because it's clear the NFL knew practically nothing about footballs and their inflation levels before turning deflate-gate into the modern day Black Sox scandal. That an NFL supervisor of officials acknowledges that footballs are subject to losing air because they're "man-made products" lets you know there are other unanswered questions. How do footballs react in cold weather? Do some leak? Do some lose pressure normally during a game? These are all interesting questions that have never been looked at before. That didn't stop the NFL from deciding which evidence fit their punishment and hammering Tom Brady and the Patriots, but I'm sure the league will learn some of those answers now that they actually care enough about the issue to have a procedure in place to check it.
      Couldn't have said it better myself.
    1. mikesteelnation1's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Sullivan View Post
      Mike, you are correct on all fronts. However, you are ignoring the simple fact that the league had no business digging in anyone's backyard other than their own. I'll repeat - until I am blue in the face - the NFL had no business investigating ball inflation. The league had no established procedures or calibration standards by which to assess the veracity of the Ravens' and Colts' claims. Instead of saying "Man, we gotta do better, here. Our control over the football inflation levels sucks", the NFL has - through disinformation and an undoubtedly BIASED multi-million dollar "investigation" - levied unprecedented penalties against one of its member clubs and, possibly, its greatest QB ever.

      So much bull****. Look in the mirror first. Address your own issues.

      #FireKingFraudger
      Sorry biggie, but we will disagree again. The league doesn't need standards in this situation about how it measures this or that. The standard of "more likely than not" is good enough here too.

      The NFL said not to under inflate the balls. 2 teams had an issue they reported. That report required the league do a deeper investigation. BTW, I do a hundred totally worthless investigations for every one that serves any legitimate purpose based on a similar report that was given by the Colts or ravens.

      It's required due diligence in the business world. The investigation the league did unearthed all the stuff that has come out about the situation. All the stuff everyone with a functional brain knows that crybrady and the Pats did EXACTLY what they were accused of.

      He did it. Everyone knows it. There's no way to "explain" it away. It's not a cause celebre'.

      The penalties are exactly in lock step with what they should be.

      BTW , the only reason this is even an issue is the PXSSY QBS legislated for control of the footballs.

      The ONLY qbs the media considers "elite" that dont have a bull shart arm welcome "beach balls" or "don't care" about the ball inflation. Big Ben and Rodgers don't care what rock they get given.

      The league created an issue by pandering to the weak armed ***** qbs. Use the rock you get handed son. If you cant, move aside and let another do so.... no need to let you manipulate it to your liking..
    1. Patrick Sullivan's Avatar
      Mike, we are just going to have to agree to disagree.