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  • Is there a better "football guy" than Ozzie Newsome ?

    As I watched the Ravens and Panthers last night, my admiration for Ozzie Newsome continued to grow. If I am an owner of a new NFL franchise, he is my go to guy to build it. He has a vision of exactly what the identity of his football team will be. He has a knack for finding players that fit his philosophy perfectly. As a Hall of Fame player he has immediate credibility in every player's eyes. He gets his team in the playoffs more often than not. They are always physical and competitive. Coaches respect him and enjoy their relationships with him. He has so many skins on the wall as a former player and current executive, his resume is hard to beat. Do you agree? If not, who is your guy?
    This article was originally published in forum thread: Is there a better "football guy" than Ozzie Newsome ? started by Dave Lapham View original post

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    1. Tinindian's Avatar
      I agree Dave. Ozzie was a heck of a ball player, but he has outdone himself as an exec. The Ravens are always a force and Ozzie is one of the biggest reasons.
    1. BuckeyeRidley's Avatar
      Awesome one Dave; However, I gotta go with Bill Polian! I know that we all know that he helped the Bills with 3 out of 4 straight Super Bowl trips which they lost each time. But Bill bounced back best with the Colts & helped to pick Peyton Manning & helped to build two Super Bowl teams with the Colts. (I KNOW! Polian has helped to build 4 Super Bowl teams who lost in the Super Bowl) Bill knows his stuff and can make a team a dynasty in their conference. Despite the way the season ends, his body of work is incredible and admirable.
    1. FootballSickness's Avatar
      One of my favorite football topics and I agree 100%. Ozzie is constantly building and maintaining a deep, talented, flexible program through the draft, and making reasonable trade and free agent investments. He just gets it. He can see the puzzle before he puts it together, like a gridiron Will Hunting. As a lifelong Browns fan, there's almost nothing more frustrating than watching him do it in Baltimore, but it's impossible not to recognize the consistency of strength he has put on the field. Every year during the draft they get several guys that make me say "wow, that's too low for that guy. The Ravens just scored." Happened like 5 times this year. Everybody was talking about Kindle and Cody, and with good reason, but those two TE's he grabbed, Dickson and Pitta, can both contribute big time, and right now. (Of course, Ozzie was never going to miss on a tight end.) Got Anquan Boldin as part of that draft, by the way. Ridiculous. But the best/most crushing move he's made in recent years is flip-flopping with the Browns to take Haloti Ngata & leaving the Browns to take Kam Wimbley. (Runs to restroom to vomit...) Anyway, good topic, thanks!
    1. Trumpetbdw's Avatar
      As a Steelers fan now living in the Baltimore area, it's very hard to admit, but Ozzie Newsome is the best. He has an excellent eye for talent meshed perfectly with his idea with what a football team is all about. And now that Brian Billick is gone, I think he's had an even bigger opportunity to shine.

      Also, I'm curious to see what Scott Pioli ends up putting together in KC. It seems that the Pats have taken a bit of a step back since he left, and KC is one of those teams that seems to be on the rise. And Jerry Reese with the Giants is the other name that comes to mind. I do think that Kevin Colbert is underrated in Pittsburgh, but I don't think he's quite on the level of Newsome, Reese, or Pioli.
    1. FLPackerFan's Avatar
      I agree 100% with this. Ozzie Newsome is one of the top people to run and build a team. He drafts well, finds free agents, and does not tend to overpay for someone else bust outs.
    1. Jaco's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRidley View Post
      Awesome one Dave; However, I gotta go with Bill Polian! I know that we all know that he helped the Bills with 3 out of 4 straight Super Bowl trips which they lost each time. But Bill bounced back best with the Colts & helped to pick Peyton Manning & helped to build two Super Bowl teams with the Colts. (I KNOW! Polian has helped to build 4 Super Bowl teams who lost in the Super Bowl) Bill knows his stuff and can make a team a dynasty in their conference. Despite the way the season ends, his body of work is incredible and admirable.
      You forgot building the Panthers team that went to the NFC title game in the 2nd year of its existence and his 6 Executive of the Year Awards. Great Draft guy and a wonderful evaluator of talent. Known to find gold in the undrafted class every year also.
    1. kelly1376's Avatar
      As far as the offensive and defensive fronts go I'd agree, but at other positions Ozzie seems to really crap the bed. This is a football team that always seems to have 1 or 2 huge gaping holes that leave you wondering why they weren't addressed. The Ravens needed a WR for almost 10 years and finally got one 9 years too late. They needed a QB each and every year for about 7 or 8 years straight and didn't do anyting about the situation until they brought in McNair. For the last 2 years they've needed a corner in a big way and I believe they went the entire draft without taking one choosing to use multiple second round picks on players that will at best be backups playing behind positions of strength.

      Now they're paying for it with injury issues in the secondary.
    1. Bengals1181's Avatar
      Bill Polian?
    1. BuckeyeRidley's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Jaco View Post
      You forgot building the Panthers team that went to the NFC title game in the 2nd year of its existence and his 6 Executive of the Year Awards. Great Draft guy and a wonderful evaluator of talent. Known to find gold in the undrafted class every year also.
      Thanks Jaco! I hit the highlights from his better known eras but his time with the Panthers is not to be ignored. Polian is the Man! He's got so much Good he bring to the NFL; His latest Executive of the Year award was for last season in 2009!
    1. Trumpetbdw's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by kelly1376 View Post
      As far as the offensive and defensive fronts go I'd agree, but at other positions Ozzie seems to really crap the bed. This is a football team that always seems to have 1 or 2 huge gaping holes that leave you wondering why they weren't addressed. The Ravens needed a WR for almost 10 years and finally got one 9 years too late. They needed a QB each and every year for about 7 or 8 years straight and didn't do anyting about the situation until they brought in McNair. For the last 2 years they've needed a corner in a big way and I believe they went the entire draft without taking one choosing to use multiple second round picks on players that will at best be backups playing behind positions of strength.

      Now they're paying for it with injury issues in the secondary.
      I look at this as being more of an indictment against Brian Billick, who I'm sure had a large hand in creating that roster, and who seemed to be arrogant enough to think that his system would work. Draft stinkers like Kyle Boller and Mark Clayton had Billick's handprints all over them, and considering the offensive "genius" that he was, I'm sure that at times, Newsome had to bite his tongue.
    1. ChargersBlue's Avatar
      Can we get some love for AJ Smith? Think of all the undrafted players they find each year...

      Kris Dielman (pro bowl G)
      Antonio Gates (all time great TE)
      Malcolm Floyd (unguardable WR)
      Antwan Applewhite (did you see him nearly kill the Bears QBs today?) (LB)
      Jacques Cesaire (starting DE)
      David Binn (all time great LS)
      Stephen Cooper (starting LB)
      Steve Gregory (starting S)
      Mike Tolbert (starting FB)

      They have perpetually more than 20 players from non BCS schools on the roster. 8 of which are starters.

      "The current Chargers from nBCS schools are Malcolm Floyd, Vincent Jackson, Legadu Naanee, Gary Banks, Brandyn Dombrowski, Scott "Mooch" Mruczkowski, Antonio Gates, Mike Tolbert, Ryan Mathews, Marcus Mason, Billy Volek, Mike Scifres, Eric Weddle, C.J. Spillman, Stephen Cooper, Larry English, Antwan Applewhite, Jacques Cesaire, Alfonso Boone, Derrick Jones, and Vaughn Martin." (Bleacher report)

      And I'm just talking about the players that are still on the team currently
    1. Jaco's Avatar
      Partial list that comes off the top of my head:

      Undrafted Colts who started in the Super Bowl last year. Kyle DeVan, OG; Melvin Bullitt, SS; Gary Brackett, MLB; Jeff Saturday, C. Non BCS players who started in the Super Bowl last year: Austin Collie (BYU), Pierre Garcon (Mount Union),

      Other influential undrafted players the Colts have discovered:
      Dominic Rhodes, RB; Nick Harper, CB. You might remember both of them played in the 06 Super Bowl. Harper started. It could easily be argued that Rhodes deserved the Super Bowl MVP.

      We're also forgetting another substantial part of Polian's pedigree:
      The respected Indianapolis Colts president got his start in professional football as a scout with the Montreal Alouettes in the 1970s and later spent time as the player-personnel director of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. Polian earned Grey Cup rings with both teams, but more importantly it was during his time in Canada that he worked with former Als coach Marv Levy -- who Polian would later hire to be his head coach with the Buffalo Bills -- and longtime Winnipeg head coach Cal Murphy, who has been a scout with the Colts for more than a decade.

      His connections with the CFL enable him to steal players like John Chick, the CFL DPoY at DE, and Sam Giguerre, a WR/special teams. Both of them played substantial time in today's preseason game. So, Polian has won multiple championships (2 in the CFL, 1 in the NFL), built 5 Super Bowl teams, and nearly built another one with the Panthers out of nothing in 2 years. If you're starting an NFL franchise, you take BP (British Petrolian? ).
    1. darvon's Avatar
      I am going to say Parcells.

      Parcells has always been an architect as well as a coach.

      He has had 5 turn-around situations, with 5 strong successes.

      Polian would be #2.

      I am a Lions fan, so I VALUE a good GM.

      There was a small window when Parcells was a commentator and Lions were in the market for a coach, but William Clay Ford wouldn't go GET Bill because Bill said he wasn't in the market, and Jerry didn't listen, he got on his jet and made Bill a Cowboy.

      I always wonder what if.....
    1. BuckeyeRidley's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by darvon View Post
      I am going to say Parcells.

      Parcells has always been an architect as well as a coach.

      He has had 5 turn-around situations, with 5 strong successes.

      Polian would be #2.

      I am a Lions fan, so I VALUE a good GM.

      There was a small window when Parcells was a commentator and Lions were in the market for a coach, but William Clay Ford wouldn't go GET Bill because Bill said he wasn't in the market, and Jerry didn't listen, he got on his jet and made Bill a Cowboy.

      I always wonder what if.....
      I like Parcells! I'm a Parcells fan! I'm going to send him a Happy Birthday Letter for his Birthday next Sunday on 08/22/10 (He'll be 69; True not dirty). However, I think that Bill Polian takes it (Bill beat the Bills in '91-same year as stirring rendition of National Anthem was sung by Whitney Houston); The 6 Executive of the Year awards, 6 Super Bowl teams crafted along with the Pro Bowlers and Hall Calls made for players taken. Love Parcells but Bill---Polian takes it.
    1. ElShay's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by ChargersBlue View Post
      Can we get some love for AJ Smith? Think of all the undrafted players they find each year...

      Kris Dielman (pro bowl G)
      Antonio Gates (all time great TE)
      Malcolm Floyd (unguardable WR)
      Antwan Applewhite (did you see him nearly kill the Bears QBs today?) (LB)
      Jacques Cesaire (starting DE)
      David Binn (all time great LS)
      Stephen Cooper (starting LB)
      Steve Gregory (starting S)
      Mike Tolbert (starting FB)

      They have perpetually more than 20 players from non BCS schools on the roster. 8 of which are starters.

      "The current Chargers from nBCS schools are Malcolm Floyd, Vincent Jackson, Legadu Naanee, Gary Banks, Brandyn Dombrowski, Scott "Mooch" Mruczkowski, Antonio Gates, Mike Tolbert, Ryan Mathews, Marcus Mason, Billy Volek, Mike Scifres, Eric Weddle, C.J. Spillman, Stephen Cooper, Larry English, Antwan Applewhite, Jacques Cesaire, Alfonso Boone, Derrick Jones, and Vaughn Martin." (Bleacher report)

      And I'm just talking about the players that are still on the team currently
      In AJ we trust. Well, at least as long as we're a playoff team.
    1. FootballFan's Avatar
      I think that when it comes to building a team that plays consistently, year in and year out - the same way, and has success - it's hard to beat Ozzie Newsome. They haven't had a decent QB/WR, etc. All true and accurate arguments - but that's simply not the style of play he builds for. A passing game is gravy for the Ravens - they win with defense and running the ball, and they've won a lot. They mirror so many other teams over the years that have been successful - but aren't the VERY VERY best because they keep running into the same teams in the playoffs and losing more than they win those contests. The Ravens get the Colts and Steelers in the playoffs. Polian? The Bills of the 90's could run the ball and had a balanced offense. The Colts have Peyton Manning - totally different teams and style of play. Ozzie's teams play the same way - all the time. The signature piece of that team is Ray Lewis though. I think Ozzie's real test comes when it's time to keep the machine rolling without Ray in the middle of the defense.
    1. ppdoc's Avatar
      The best part about Oz is that he does it with quiet grace. He almost never talks to the media and then it is like pulling teeth. He just wants to quietly do his job. He has a program set up here that is only rivaled by a couple of teams in the NFL. He has had his bad drafts (travis taylor, kyle boller, mark clayton) but overall he tends to hit home runs with his #1 picks. He also has a habit of finding gems in the lower rounds and UDFA's (Adalius Thomas, Bart Scott, Priest Holmes are just a few.) But the best part about Ozzie is that he is a really class guy.
    1. tico887's Avatar
      After seeing some pretty astute responses here, I will simply say that, as a browns fan since '62, I feel pretty confident that my sentiments aside, Ozzie is unquestionably one of, if not THE best overall football guy I know of.
    1. Pruitt's Avatar
      Ozzie was one of my all-time favourite players. And a hell of a GM, but give me Pollian any day.