• Turk Talk™: Quarters Coverage


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    1. BuckeyeRidley's Avatar
      Thanks Turk; Really Cool. Love that you TM'd your segments and have your own YouTube Channel!! Don't forget about us. Seeing schemes like these helps me to better understand how some teams get it so wrong when not everyone's on the same page or didn't study their opponent well enough.
    1. Fixxxer's Avatar
      That was great, thanks Turk.

      Never played the game Turk, so bear with me. We play against the Patriots twice a year (Bills fan here), the common theme when facing them is that Bellichik is very good at disguising coverages.
      Can you ilustrate, in basic terms, how they do it.
    1. msclemons's Avatar
      Would a good play fake pull up the backers to allow a quick slant against that?
    1. Turk Schonert's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by msclemons View Post
      Would a good play fake pull up the backers to allow a quick slant against that?
      You might pull the backers up, but you might also pull the safeties up to make a play on the slant
    1. msclemons's Avatar
      Any other good ways to attack that other than post/corner combos? Looks like a tough D to get a medium range pass against.
    1. Turk Schonert's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by msclemons View Post
      Any other good ways to attack that other than post/corner combos? Looks like a tough D to get a medium range pass against.
      Crossing routes are good because it forces the defense to communicate to pass off receivers. Screens are good against quarters coverage. Juke concepts against the middle LB are good, and double moves on the corners or safeties are good just to name a few.
    1. msclemons's Avatar
      You're going to have to clarify "juke concepts against the middle LB". I have no idea what that means

      Could you take us through a normal progression read against a D like this? What does the QB use as visual cues to determine where to go with the ball?
    1. Pruitt's Avatar
      I'm beginning to understand why some CBs are among the highest paid players in the game. Thanks Turk.
    1. Turk Schonert's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by msclemons View Post
      You're going to have to clarify "juke concepts against the middle LB". I have no idea what that means

      Could you take us through a normal progression read against a D like this? What does the QB use as visual cues to determine where to go with the ball?
      I'll do a follow up and take you through some progressions.
    1. ScottDCP's Avatar
      The last formation you showed, with three right and one split left, if the QB reads the FS cheating to the middle, does his progression change? What would it be if the FS stayed home, and what would it be if he went to the 3? It seems the kind of situation where the halfback could take a swing pass twenty yards before anyone could touch him.

      Oops. Sorry, Turk. It appears I type much more slowly than you do.
    1. Dave Lapham's Avatar
      Really good stuff Turk. The more you explain coverages and how they can be disguised, the more respect I have for QBs making split second decisions under pressure. It also shows how important it is for QBs & WRs to be on the same page, see the same thing. Football is the ultimate team game... 22 moving parts every snap.
    1. FootballFan's Avatar
      As an offense, if you've managed to get a defense to roll coverages one way or the other, into quarters and half based on defending an X or Z wideout, and most importantly - recognize it - wouldn't it be a good idea to a call running plays going away from the rolled coverages? especially if you've got a situation like the one drawn up where the offense is lined up in a single back stronside right and the defense is rolled to the left in quarters?

      I think that the ability to check out of a passing play to an effective run or vice versa is what can really separate a good QB from a great one.
    1. FootballFan's Avatar
      again on that trips right formation, if the X can take the CB deep off the snap and the free safety is cheating back over the middle looking at those receivers, and it's a standard 4-3 front, I'm looking to catch that weakside DE, DT and WLB triangle in perfect position for the T and G to seal the DE and DT and pull the C around the G into the B gap and take out the WLB with the RB following either following right behind or bouncing outside depending on where the MLB is. Or if it's a 3-4 front, some other combination of blocks in the middle to create a ton of daylight to run. Maybe I'm just cuckoo about the running game in a passing world, but it's what I see.

      Run first to pass, or pass first to run. Chicken and egg, and round and round it goes. Love it.
    1. Polishguy00's Avatar
      Just great stuff as usual. It really is great to have your expertise on the site. On offense, it seems the best offense against these defenses is anything that makes someone make a decision. You want to see the defense communication break down. Right?
    1. Turk Schonert's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by Polishguy00 View Post
      Just great stuff as usual. It really is great to have your expertise on the site. On offense, it seems the best offense against these defenses is anything that makes someone make a decision. You want to see the defense communication break down. Right?
      Forcing the defense to communicate quickly and make quick decisions is good offense. Defenses apply the same philosophy when attacking offenses. It's a great chess match.