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Week 4: Efficiency

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So no more daring headlines? Let's just look at how team are doing.

Last weeks ranking in parenthesis.

Offense
1 (3) New York Giants Playing the atrocious Zona Defense will do this.
2 (5) Green Bay Packers 6 TDs by one guy...
3 (1) Buffalo Bills So apparently the Bengals Defense is Legit.
4 (4) Detroit Lions I think that guy wearing 81 should at least be covered in the end zone.
5 (7) New England Patriots Running the ball might not be as flashy, but it helps keeping you TAINT free.
6 (2) Oakland Raiders
7 (6) New Orleans Saints
8 (10) San Francisco 49ers
9 (12) Denver Broncos
10 (14) Arizona Cardinals
11 (28) Seattle Seahawks Sidney Rice is really that goos, or the Falcons are bad enough that they allowed Pete Carrol to jump 17 spots
12 (13) Houston Texans
13 (11) Baltimore Ravens
14 (9) New York Jets The Sancheese was left in the sun too long...
15 (17) Tennessee Titans
16 (18) Atlanta Falcons
17 (8) Cleveland Browns I'd like to see what Colt could do with at least a legitimate threat at WR.
18 (16) San Diego Chargers
19 (15) Philadelphia Eagles
20 (24) Chicago Bears
21 (22) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
22 (21) Washington Redskins
23 (20) Minnesota Vikings
24 (25) Dallas Cowboys
25 (23) Carolina Panthers
26 (19) Cincinnati Bengals
27 (30) Indianapolis Colts
28 (27) Miami Dolphins Worse than last year? Really!
29 (26) Pittsburgh Steelers So it's true, their is a worse OL than the Bears!
30 (29) Kansas City Chiefs By catching that ball Dwayne, you might have cost yourself Andrew Luck.
31 (31) St. Louis Rams It's along season.
32 (32) Jacksonville Jaguars Cut your hair, Gabbert!

Defense

1 (3) Detroit Lions The Tony Romo experience!
2 (1) Baltimore Ravens The Sancheese?
3 (8) New York Giants That's what a good DL gets you.
4 (5) Washington Redskins Boring to watch, but efficient.
5 (20) Arizona Cardinals WTF!
6 (2) Tennessee Titans
7 (6) Chicago Bears
8 (7) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
9 (10) Seattle Seahawks
10 (15) Cleveland Browns
11 (4) San Francisco 49ers
12 (12) Green Bay Packers
13 (30) Denver Broncos
14 (27) Atlanta Falcons
15 (16) Pittsburgh Steelers
16 (18) Indianapolis Colts
17 (9) New England Patriots You don't throw to Wilfork Archipelago.
18 (21) Carolina Panthers
19 (25) Dallas Cowboys
20 (13) Houston Texans
21 (24) St. Louis Rams
22 (11) Jacksonville Jaguars
23 (19) New York Jets
24 (22) Miami Dolphins
25 (17) Cincinnati Bengals
26 (14) Minnesota Vikings
27 (29) Oakland Raiders
28 (23) San Diego Chargers That's not winning football, no matter what the record says.
29 (26) New Orleans Saints Be concerned, Sean Payton
30 (28) Buffalo Bills And they face the Eagles next week...
31 (31) Philadelphia Eagles And they face the Bills next week
32 (32) Kansas City Chiefs I think Romeo Crennel is in a sugar comma...

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  1. msclemons's Avatar
    How are you measuring efficiency, yards/point? I'm old, I forget these things.
  2. iwatt's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by msclemons
    How are you measuring efficiency, yards/point? I'm old, I forget these things.
    Points per 100 yards. It only counts points directly atrributed to offense (rushing and receiving TDs and 2p conversions), and no EP or FGs.
  3. Bengals1181's Avatar
    I'm having trouble grasping this one as well. Based on that criteria the Bengals defense gave up 6 points and 273yds. How is that only 25th best?
    Updated 10-06-2011 at 10:25 PM by Bengals1181
  4. iwatt's Avatar
    I think I mixed my rankings from week to week (it was an attempt at a new feature).
    The info is here

    I have the bengals as the 17th, since they have allowed 42 points on a 1102 yards. This is just a measure of Bend don't break, by the way. If a team is good at 3 and outs, but still scored on occasionally, that is a good defense, but not an efficent one.
  5. Bengals1181's Avatar
    an interesting way to do it I guess. Bengals are 1st in yds allowed and 6th in points allowed (7 of which given up by the offense) and 3rd in getting off the field on 3rd down.
  6. iwatt's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Bengals1181
    an interesting way to do it I guess. Bengals are 1st in yds allowed and 6th in points allowed (7 of which given up by the offense) and 3rd in getting off the field on 3rd down.
    How has their red zone defense been? They've alllowed 6 FG, while the average in the league is 6.9. They've allowed 7 touchdowns, and the league average is 9. 35,1% of their scoring comes from Special teams, and the league average is 35,3%

    All those numbers look average, but yes, since they are 1 in yds and 6th in points it's kind of weird.

    It's still week 4, and the sample size looks kind of small. By weeek 6 we'll have a better idea of what's going on.
  7. Bengals1181's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by iwatt
    How has their red zone defense been? They've alllowed 6 FG, while the average in the league is 6.9. They've allowed 7 touchdowns, and the league average is 9. 35,1% of their scoring comes from Special teams, and the league average is 35,3%

    All those numbers look average, but yes, since they are 1 in yds and 6th in points it's kind of weird.

    It's still week 4, and the sample size looks kind of small. By weeek 6 we'll have a better idea of what's going on.
    Off the top of my head I can think of 5 redzone touchdowns, 2 redzone FG's. So not great on that end.

    Not saying your rankings don't have merit, just find a 17th ranking odd when they rank in the top 10 of I think every defensive category you can come up with. points, total yds, yards per catch, yards per carry, total passing yds, total rushing yds, 3rd down efficiency, forced fumbles.

    Basically the only 2 categories they aren't INT's (31st) and Sacks(12th)
  8. iwatt's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Bengals1181
    Basically the only 2 categories they aren't INT's (31st) and Sacks(12th)
    Yup. I was looking at Scoring by unit, and the Bengals are average (15th) in scoring by Defense (the unit contributes 0.5 pts/game). They rank 11th in Special teams Scoring (9.0 pts/game), but just 23rd in defensive scoring, with 10.5 pts per game.

    They average only 1 TO/game, and the league average is 1.59.

    It all seems to add up to a very efficient Team Defense by the Bengals, but without any outstanding defensive playmaking (forced fumbles, ints, sacks). Basically they do everything Well, but I can't point out anything they do Extremely well. I haven't seen many games of the Bengals except for Redzone highlights. Does that add up to how they've looked? How long or short ahve the field position for opponents been?

    By the way, maybe Efficiency shouldn't be the name of this blog. Because the Bengals sure look defensively efficient. On the offensive side, it does measure well how good the team is at converting yards into points.

    In any case, I think it's interesting to see how this complements other stats. The Bengals are a top defense, but they aren't doing it through highlight plays, but because they don't make many mistakes, apparently.

    EDIT: I looked at Points per play, and the Bengals rank 5th under that metric....
    Updated 10-07-2011 at 04:14 PM by iwatt
  9. Bengals1181's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by iwatt
    Yup. I was looking at Scoring by unit, and the Bengals are average (15th) in scoring by Defense (the unit contributes 0.5 pts/game). They rank 11th in Special teams Scoring (9.0 pts/game), but just 23rd in defensive scoring, with 10.5 pts per game.

    They average only 1 TO/game, and the league average is 1.59.

    It all seems to add up to a very efficient Team Defense by the Bengals, but without any outstanding defensive playmaking (forced fumbles, ints, sacks). Basically they do everything Well, but I can't point out anything they do Extremely well. I haven't seen many games of the Bengals except for Redzone highlights. Does that add up to how they've looked? How long or short ahve the field position for opponents been?

    By the way, maybe Efficiency shouldn't be the name of this blog. Because the Bengals sure look defensively efficient. On the offensive side, it does measure well how good the team is at converting yards into points.

    In any case, I think it's interesting to see how this complements other stats. The Bengals are a top defense, but they aren't doing it through highlight plays, but because they don't make many mistakes, apparently.

    EDIT: I looked at Points per play, and the Bengals rank 5th under that metric....

    somewhat. I'd say they defend the run extremely well, and the pass rush is very good though the sacks don't show that. I'd bet they are near the top in pressures and hits though. They only sacked Fitzpatrick once, but they were in his face all day.

    They also defend the pass well. The have given up three long touchdowns via the air, but not much other than that, and one of those was a fluky play. Part of the reason they INT numbers are low is that they force a lot of checkdowns to RB's underneath, which aren't the type of passes that get picked.
  10. Bengals1181's Avatar
    Lapham busted out an interesting stat tonight on the radio that he came up with. He was bored on the flight home from Jacksonville


    RED: Rush Efficiency Differential

    yards per carry gained - yards per carry allowed = Rush Efficiency Differential

    ie. The Bengals are averaging 4.0ypc gained, and giving up 3.2ypc. So their RED is +0.8

    Wonder how good of a gauge that is. He mentioned the vikings and lions as examples as well, with the vikings having a high RED but the lions having a low RED, and it doesn't translate to win/loss record.
  11. iwatt's Avatar
    I looked at rushing differential last year, and it didn't have a direct correlation to winning. What did have a better correlation was ball control i.e Possessions for versus against. And running helps there.
  12. Bengals1181's Avatar
    I'd say there's definitely some correlation in time of possession. When the Bengals won the division in 2009 they did it by a strong running game and ball control offense that kept their defense fresh and more importantly kept the other teams offense off the field.

    The top 10 in TOP this year is a who's who of the leagues top teams right now.
    Updated 10-11-2011 at 01:46 PM by Bengals1181
  13. superman07's Avatar
    The Lions have certainly fallen from the top rankings recently.
  14. iwatt's Avatar
    Yup, I have to update this soon