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    Good Teams / Bad Teams

    In another 2 threads I was posting about GOOD teams and BAD teams and gave a definition.
    It got me to thinking about how many are what in the NFL.

    Let me simplify it

    GREAT team - 4 or 5 years in the playoffs in the last 5 years.
    VERY GOOD team - 3 years
    GOOD team - 2 years
    MEDIOCRE team - 1 playoff appearance
    BAD team - 0 for the last 5 years of playoffs.

    Here are the standings

    Code:
    Baltim	4
    Green 	4
    New En	4
    Pittsb	4
    Indian	4
    Atlant	3
    San Di	3
    NY Gia	3
    New Or	3
    Philad	3
    Arizon	2
    Cincin	2
    Dallas	2
    Tennes	2
    NY Jet	2
    Seattl	2
    Minnes	2
    Chicag	1
    Detroi	1
    Miami	1
    Jackso	1
    Texas	1
    Washin	1
    San Fr	1
    Denver	1
    Kansas	1
    Caroli	1
    Tampa 	1
    Clevel	0
    St Lou	0
    Oaklan	0
    5 GREATs 4 of which in AFC
    5 VERY GOODS 4 of which in NFC
    7 GOODs

    There seem to be 5-6 year "blocks" of draft classes. The 2004-2008 drafts accounted for 8 of the GOOD+ teams. The 1998-2003 block accounts for 8 and then there was Favre.

    The 2009-2013 block accounted for none.

    Sort of obviously, if you are a GOOD+ team you haven't switched to a Rookie QB recently.

    Of the 9 GOOD+ teams with success from a 1998-2003 QB (plus Favre), 7 have already dumped their winning QB. Minn, Sea, Ari, Tenn, Cinn, Ind, Phil. Phil reloaded, and Cinn looks ok. But the other 5 are sliding and searching. Looks like there is room for about 5 new GOOD+ teams to rise from Mediocrity.


    A GOOD+ team that replaces its QB slides down at least 5/7ths of the time (70%).

    Andrew, did you hear that?
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    Intetesting... Whatsapp about a larger time frame...10 years?
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    Apparently, there's a new category - "Irrelevant" for teams that weren't even listed.

    As the only team in that category is the Bills, I'd say you got it right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pruitt View Post
    Apparently, there's a new category - "Irrelevant" for teams that weren't even listed.

    As the only team in that category is the Bills, I'd say you got it right.

    Ice, ice baby.

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    Seems the common theme, the glue that sticks is a top 10 qb. 8 of the 10 very good + teams had a top 10 qb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesteelnation1 View Post
    Seems the common theme, the glue that sticks is a top 10 qb. 8 of the 10 very good + teams had a top 10 qb.

    In light of that, what's your take on the deal for RGIII?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wxwax View Post
    In light of that, what's your take on the deal for RGIII?
    I think Rg3 has a ton of ability. His ceiling is crazy high. He's only scratched the surface of what he can do. Shanny has made winners of far inferior qbs, like griese and plummer. With a stud skill set, a super smart guy like Rg has a better than avg chance to be great in this scheme. Shanny has adjusted his scheme to suit, but its been at its best with mobile qbs. If Rg can assimilate his efficiency and athleticism to the NFL at a similar clip to college, all the while knowing the kid "gets it" as to when to run like young did, this is a no brainer trade.

    Sure its a ton to trade for one one guy, but a true franchise qb is worth it. Many NFL gms agree with that assessment, guys who know way more than I do. Darvons stats bear that out too. Add to that the skins front office guys don't do an exemplary job with the use of their picks, and its a great trade. Refer to my posts in the other Rg thread. Shanny, nor Allen, nor lil' Danny have been very successful with first rounders. Based on previous performances collectively, I love the pick... It's a chance at an actual franchise qb. Something the skins have longed for for decades..
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    Many NFL gms agree with that assessment, guys who know way more than I do.
    So you are excluding Millen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by darvon View Post
    So you are excluding Millen?
    Seeing as how he's no longer a gm, and was a farce of one when he was, of course I am. Millen would have used the pick after trading up to draft blackmon!!
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