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    The next Rodgers contract

    Do any of you recall being flabbergasted by the 'lifetime' Favre 100M contract? I know I was. Aaron's 2008 early season extension pushed him into Favre 2001 numbers.

    Meanwhile...

    Favre was getting 20M per year from a team that had lost its mind a couple years ago.

    Peyton Manning had a contract that was strangling everyone involved. A 28M roster bonus was absurd. Denver tossed a reported 18M his way and then chose to back him up with a mannequin (kinda like Indy).

    I'm a bit iffy on Brady's contract details but think he's in the upper teens.

    Drew Brees agent is asking for a reported 23M; hard to say where things wind up. Figure 20M.

    20 is the new 10 and all the good ones target it.

    If I were budgeting a team, I'd be inclined to use as much as 18 percent (15% seems a lot more comfortable) for the most important position.

    That's a LOT when you figure that somewhere around 60 others have to be covered by the remaining 82 to 85% (along with any dead money and in season extensions). And if you hit a year like the Packers did in 2010 with a cap there are no saviors (Walden and Green were Hans and Luke).

    At 20M (and a 121ish cap), a single contract blows a position with 3 to 4 contracts totally out of whack.

    With all that in mind, what's it going to cost to sign Aaron?

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    First off, I think Aaron is reasonable enough to not kill the Packers and the Packers need him enough to be the figurative dad with his wallet open. I think his deal will be similar to what Brady has. Aaron's current deal is 6yr $65 million with a $13 million signing bonus. It averages just under $11 million a year, but 2009 was low...around $2 million. Brady's deal is similar, just more money. He scored a 5yr, $78 million deal. He scored $16 million guaranteed...roster bonuses and such included, $41,702,480 in bonuses. The deal averages $15.7 million/year, but it's backloaded. The last 2 years combined are about $42 million.

    The Packers will likely give Rodgers a similar contract. The Pats were "only" on the hook for $16 million had they needed to cut Brady. Backloading and putting in substantial signing bonuses ($19 million in the last 2 years for Brady with $6.4 million in prorated signing bonuses still outstanding) allows the team to rework the deal into a much more cap-friendly deal. No way NE pays Brady $21 million. They'll extend him and rework the roster bonuses to allow them more cap room. Rodgers will get a similar deal. A deceptively high total salary number with a much lower realistic earning potential.
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    Rodgers is in his prime and worth quite a bit more than an old and injured manning. The old guy past his prime got $18mil per. Why wouldn't rodgers use that as a starting point for negotiations, just like brees has?

    Rodgers is a far superior qb to brees, so I'm thinking the brees deal that's likely forthcoming shapes a lot of that discussion. Rodgers may be reasonable, but there's only so much of a hometown discount he's going to give. I forsee a 6yr 116mil contract with $35 mil up front, and a back loaded final 2 years on the deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesteelnation1 View Post
    Rodgers is in his prime and worth quite a bit more than an old and injured manning. The old guy past his prime got $18mil per. Why wouldn't rodgers use that as a starting point for negotiations, just like brees has?

    Rodgers is a far superior qb to brees, so I'm thinking the brees deal that's likely forthcoming shapes a lot of that discussion. Rodgers may be reasonable, but there's only so much of a hometown discount he's going to give. I forsee a 6yr 116mil contract with $35 mil up front, and a back loaded final 2 years on the deal.
    Rodgers is the best in the biz right now. pay the man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesteelnation1 View Post
    Rodgers is in his prime and worth quite a bit more than an old and injured manning. The old guy past his prime got $18mil per. Why wouldn't rodgers use that as a starting point for negotiations, just like brees has?

    Rodgers is a far superior qb to brees, so I'm thinking the brees deal that's likely forthcoming shapes a lot of that discussion. Rodgers may be reasonable, but there's only so much of a hometown discount he's going to give. I forsee a 6yr 116mil contract with $35 mil up front, and a back loaded final 2 years on the deal.
    Brady has 3 rings, a couple MVPs, and tons of records and just made it to his 5th SB and is making $78 million. Manning's contract is extreme. It will likely be around what Brees gets. I'm thinking 5yr/$85-90 million.
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    Quote Originally Posted by packa7x View Post
    Brady has 3 rings, a couple MVPs, and tons of records and just made it to his 5th SB and is making $78 million. Manning's contract is extreme. It will likely be around what Brees gets. I'm thinking 5yr/$85-90 million.
    It's going to be more for brees. The saints have offered a contract in the neighborhood of what you posted. No dice. He countered with what pm was offered before he purposefully took less. Brees wants over $20 mil a year, matter of fact he's asked for $23 mil avg.

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    I doubt the Saints go up much more than that. $19mill/yr I'd say is the cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by packa7x View Post
    I doubt the Saints go up much more than that. $19mill/yr I'd say is the cap.
    That's the right number IMHO, but ill venture a guess that based on the saints current situation due to the bounty nonsense, and missing coaches, the number will creep over $20mil per.. that and there's not an actual qb behind him on the roster..
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesteelnation1 View Post
    It's going to be more for brees. The saints have offered a contract in the neighborhood of what you posted. No dice. He countered with what pm was offered before he purposefully took less. Brees wants over $20 mil a year, matter of fact he's asked for $23 mil avg.
    Brees is severely over pricing himself. He has the same number of rings, and Super Bowl MVP's as Manning, 4 less NFL MVP's than Manning and holds one NFL record in a year where several people either broke it, or also came close to breaking it. I don't think he's even worth Tom Brady's contract.

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    Packers are adding seats to Lambeau Field. No doubt keeping Aaron Rodgers figures in that decision.
    The Packers are in much better shape than they were when they signed Brett's $100M deal roster wise.

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