I think they should draft a CB they can stash on special teams until 2019.
I did my first mock draft about a week ago.
Wasn't going to post it because there was no draft thread, and I didn't want to be THAT guy.
FWIW I estimated the Bengals draft position and the number of comp picks they should get, and used Draftek player rankings. Total of 11 picks.
1-15- DE, Derek Barnett, Tenn., 6'3" 267
2-46- WR, John Ross, Wash., 5'11, 197 (A tick shorter than the Bengals prefer but legit 4.2 speed trumps all.)
3-79 - OC, Ethan Pocic, LSU, 6'6", 312 (I assumed a replacement for Bodine was mandatory in all mock drafts this year.)
4 -111 QB, Mitch Trubisky, UNC (Trubisky won't be here in the real draft but Bengals need a McCarron replacement.)
4-135-ILB, Zach Cunningham, Vanderbilt
4-136-ILB, Anthony Walker, Northwestern
5-150-FS/CB, Demetrius Cox, Mich,St., 6'0", 198
6-182-FS, Rayshawn Jenkins, Miami, 6'1", 208
6-200-PK, Daniel Carlson, Auburn, 6'3", 218 (Has FG range from 60+)
7-215-OLB, Haasan Reddick, Temple, 6'1", 230 (I remember him from watching tape of Temple players last year.)
7-235- P, Austin Rehkow, Idaho, 6'3", 215 (My special team makeover is complete.)
Of course, I would spontaneously orgasm with that draft, but you may have 5 first rounders in the first 5 picks!
Originally Posted by HOF
If we could somehow foretell that Vontaze would lose some weight and take over the middle, I'd be a lot more comfortable waiting a bit to take another outside backer.
I know you are Pac-12 guy because of the West Coast. Have you seen Ross play much? I watched the Utah game but didn't get a good feel for the breathless speed people are talking about. He did seem to be a playmaker though...
What's clear is that we need immediate contributors at at least 5 spots. Maybe if a regime change does come, and it starts at the very top, Katie might be a wee bit more willing to kick the tires on an FA that isn't coming here for his swan song attempt. That would sure take some pressure off...
One guy who I thought would be a perfect final piece next year before the wheels seemed to fall off this one was Tim Williams from Alabama. He's the kind of tweener we never take, but a pass-rushing speed specialist seemed like a happy compromise if MJ was going to play out his deal.
And then I watched him against LSU the other night. He set the edge with stoutness and looked fluid, comfortable, and on point in pass coverage. Let's just say I was surprised, and he may now enter Anthony Barr, Jamie Collins territory for me.
Call me crazy, but I'm still not convinced we wind up picking high enough to get Barnett.
Originally Posted by HOF
I'd be happy with Ross.
I don't see Pocic lasting that long, but I really want either him or Elflein.
I don't know where he is going to wind up ranked, but I really want TJ Watt in this draft.
I personally wouldn't waste a pick on a punter. I do like the Carlson pick though.
Barnett isn't real big - that'd be the question. And Tim Williams (whom Alley mentioned) has been a bit up and down in the past, but he looks a lot more consistent this year.
Originally Posted by Jason_NC
Ross looks a lot like Will Fuller in the couple of games I've seen. Kind of slight... like Fuller, but he's got insane speed. Because teams typically pay a premium for that, I'd be surprised if he is available in round 2 given what has happened with guys like Fuller and Dorsett the past few years.
The centers you mentioned would be fine... I wonder if they are gonna move Westerman there? I guess it depends what happens with Zeitler. Also, Bodine has been better this year... not great certainly, but definitely better.
And I'd like TJ Watt for sure. He's really impressed me this year. Another impressive LB who mauls people but is surprisingly quick is Ryan Anderson... another Alabama guy. He's got some heft... huge in the lower body, but he can move. Not sure where he's rated but he always seems to make plays.
While we're on the LB topic, I have to mention a guy who screamed out to me last year but I haven't yet watched this year. I'd take him on last year alone though. Jarrad Davis, from Florida. He looks like the complete package, especially when you factor in the attitude that this team really lacks.
Too good to be true? I don't disagree....and that's why I was reluctant to post it. That said, all of the players selected were currently ranked higher than the spot they were selected at the time of the mock, and all but one still does. (Pocic is still ranked as a 3rd rounder but would be gone by pick 79 in the latest Draftek update.) And I tried to be conservative when dealing with the comp picks, projecting two 4th rounders and an extra 6th and 7th. The Bengals could easily do better than that.
Originally Posted by alleycat
Gimme any 3 of 1,2, and 4 and I'd still be thrilled. Hell, give me 2.
Originally Posted by HOF
As for the QB, one of the guys who has been my favorite just fell even more into the developmental category, which is perfect behind Andy for a year. He could even spend the year on IR while we have some stop-gap backup provide depth.
And that's Chad Kelly. He has all of the physical talent in the world, which he sometimes relies on a bit too much. In fact, it's hard not to compare him to Brett Favre in some ways. But take a guy like that and sit him behind ultra-careful, methodical Andy Dalton and he might really turn into something. I have to think with that knee now he's going to be a 3rd rounder at best, perhaps lower still.
I'd definitely be happy with Kelly in an appropriate draft slot.