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    Another year and another failure by the committee (up to this point) to successfully distinguish the difference between "best" and "most deserving". The committee says "best", therefore ESPN argues "best". Yet, in the past 2 years, despite continuing to say the word "best", they've picked "most deserving".

    THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH ADMITTING THAT YOU'RE TAKING THE 4 MOST DESERVING TEAMS!!!

    If we talk about best teams, then suddenly idiots like David Pollock can wax poetic about 3-loss USC and how they should have an argument. Idiots like Desmond Howard can argue Michigan, who finished 3rd in their own division, and whose only win outside the state of Michigan was against Rutgers.

    -Alabama-- IN no matter what.

    -Ohio State-- IN and deserving of that monicker. I think there's a good argument that they're more deserving than the B1G champ even if Penn State, the team that beat them, adds another Top 10 win (Wisconsin will stay in the Top 10 even with a loss). Wins @Oklahoma, @Wisconsin, and over Michigan is by far a more impressive collection of wins than any other team can boast.

    -Clemson-- IN and deserving, but only if they win. If Clemson isn't on their game, Virginia Tech is a very dangerous opponent tonight.

    -Washington-- Rutgers. Idaho. Portland State. All home games. Those are their non-conference wins. If we're considering penalizing unbeaten Western Michigan for the MAC and their schedule in relation to 2-loss Navy, why are we rewarding Washington for playing in the MAC of the Power 5? How else does Colorado end up as a division winner? USC is by far and away the best team Washington played and the Trojans dominated them IN Washington. That was only 3 weeks ago. An undefeated Washington would have been deserving. Add in that loss, and reward their very good season justly with a Rose Bowl berth. No shame in that.

    -Michigan-- played a Penn State at home in September that was forced to play 2nd/3rd stringers on the DL, and was literally down 5 LBs, forced to play true freshmen and walk-ons. The game got away from them early. In the last month, they've struggled with Michigan State (Penn State beat them 45-12), struggled to put up 20 at home vs. Indiana (PSU hung 45 on them in Bloomington the week before), lost to Iowa the week after PSU beat them 41-14, and lost to Ohio State (PSU- 24-21). If they play right now, are we certain Michigan beats Penn State? Are we certain Michigan beats Wisconsin again? If Wisconsin wins tonight, I can see the argument for Michigan over the Badgers, who played in the weaker division, and lost to both the Wolverines and Buckeyes. But if Penn State wins...

    -Penn State- Home win over Ohio State cancels out early season road loss against Michigan when they were as undermanned on defense as any team has been all year. If PSU wins-- Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State will each be 2-1 H2H against each other plus Wisconsin. Add in the B1G championship, and YES, the team that also won Michigan's division is more deserving of a playoff spot than the Wolverines.

    -Wisconsin- Yes, I can see an argument for Michigan if Wiscy wins. BUT, if Wisconsin is B1G champ I think they should be rewarded and I'd put them into the top 4, even over Washington.

    My playoff picks-- Alabama, Ohio State, B1G champ, Clemson/Michigan. I don't think we should reward Washington no matter what happens.

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    Trace McSorley and Penn State's offensive weapons are the difference tonight.

    Penn State wins in impressive fashion. 41-17.

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    Also-- Temple in an upset. Oklahoma over OSU 45-31. Alabama over Florida (close for a half).

    And I've got a hunch the ACC Championship tonight looks an awful lot like the Big 12 championship in 1996 (Texas over #3 Nebraska), 1998 (Texas A&M over #3 Kansas State), and 2001 (Colorado over #3 Texas).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Williams View Post
    Also-- Temple in an upset. Oklahoma over OSU 45-31. Alabama over Florida (close for a half).

    And I've got a hunch the ACC Championship tonight looks an awful lot like the Big 12 championship in 1996 (Texas over #3 Nebraska), 1998 (Texas A&M over #3 Kansas State), and 2001 (Colorado over #3 Texas).
    Hint: for those of you out of practice with TG on hiatus for this year, Brian is picking Virginia Tech.
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    If I had it in on time, I would have picked Oklahoma (looking at least plausible right now, even though the Cowboys are up 17-10 late in the second) and Navy (uh, less plausible).

    Alabama, basically, will beat Florida by as much as they want to beat them by.

    I think Virginia Tech is going to have to benefit from turnovers to beat Clemson.

    I'm interested to see how Penn State does away from Happy Valley. It's obviously not a road game for the Lions, but they have been pretty magnificent at home; after two early-season losses on the road (Pitt, Michigan), they've only had to travel to Purdue (yuck), Indiana (decent!), and Rutgers (just awful). I do think this is a game where if Penn State builds an early lead, we could see a gigantic beatdown--kind of like what happened to the Badgers in the 2014 Big Ten Championship Game. If things stay tight, though, who knows?

    Oh, and as you all know, I am obligated to call Wyoming's number for an upset over San Diego State in the Mountain West Championship Game. It's a re-run of a game just a couple weeks ago, actually, when the Cowboys beat the Aztecs, 34-33, in Laramie, where they'll meet again tonight. The Cowboys are undefeated at home this season and have been a kind of unsurprising surprise (yes, I just wrote that) in Craig Bohl's third year at Wyoming. This game would be worth flipping to occasionally for SDSU's all-world runningback Donnel Pumphrey alone, but this really should be some fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Kocsan View Post
    If I had it in on time, I would have picked Oklahoma (looking at least plausible right now, even though the Cowboys are up 17-10 late in the second) and Navy (uh, less plausible).

    Alabama, basically, will beat Florida by as much as they want to beat them by.

    I think Virginia Tech is going to have to benefit from turnovers to beat Clemson.

    I'm interested to see how Penn State does away from Happy Valley. It's obviously not a road game for the Lions, but they have been pretty magnificent at home; after two early-season losses on the road (Pitt, Michigan), they've only had to travel to Purdue (yuck), Indiana (decent!), and Rutgers (just awful). I do think this is a game where if Penn State builds an early lead, we could see a gigantic beatdown--kind of like what happened to the Badgers in the 2014 Big Ten Championship Game. If things stay tight, though, who knows?

    Oh, and as you all know, I am obligated to call Wyoming's number for an upset over San Diego State in the Mountain West Championship Game. It's a re-run of a game just a couple weeks ago, actually, when the Cowboys beat the Aztecs, 34-33, in Laramie, where they'll meet again tonight. The Cowboys are undefeated at home this season and have been a kind of unsurprising surprise (yes, I just wrote that) in Craig Bohl's third year at Wyoming. This game would be worth flipping to occasionally for SDSU's all-world runningback Donnel Pumphrey alone, but this really should be some fun.
    That's the game I forgot. I like San Diego State.

    Penn State has been the best 2nd half team in the country since the start of October. Most weeks, they'll play it pretty close to the vest throughout the first half, make a few adjustments at halftime, and dominate the 2nd half. That trend was true against Minnesota, Ohio State, Purdue, Indiana, Rutgers, and Michigan State. It was also true against Pitt, when they looked awful in the 1st half, then in the 2nd half simply ran out of time (McSorley led them nearly all the way back from a 21 point deficit, had them driving, but in his 2nd career start forced a ball into the endzone on a bad read when the field was wide open, and Pitt hadn't stopped them in basically the entire 2nd half).

    Against then-unbeaten Maryland and Iowa, they played complete games. Especially against Iowa, and no one does Iowa like PSU did Iowa. The next week, Iowa did to Michigan what they've historically done to PSU (and many other teams) and grinded out an ugly win on a last second FG.

    I'm expecting a complete game tonight, and Penn State absolutely has the horses to make it ugly. I'm a little put off by everyone's love of Wisconsin for a schedule that's basically enhanced by early season wins over 2 incredibly overrated teams (LSU and Michigan State), and 2 moral victories against Ohio State and Michigan. I'm never a fan of the "quality loss" argument, and that's all Wisconsin has. Outside of that, it's a bunch of close wins over mediocre competition mixed with a couple blowouts over the likes of Illinois and Purdue.

    2 good losses do not equal the 2 top 10 wins that would be on PSU's resume should they win tonight. That's why I'm a little down on Wisconsin even though they're the higher ranked team.
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    Also, if a current best team argument invariably includes USC, please tell me what they've done in their 8 game winning streak that Penn State hasn't over the same stretch. Except for win their division and play for a conference championship. That's the problem I have when people start throwing out "best team". It's subjective and ridiculous.
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    Ummm... Slow-playing it. Yeah, that's what's happening.
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    As of right now, Wisconsin is making a better statement than Washington did last night.
    "I will never give a motivational speech to my players. If I have to motivate you, I will fire you."

    -Chuck Noll

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    Game. On.
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