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    OT-Browns

    Hope this thread is okay. I think what the Browns have been doing is pretty fascinating in really taking an extreme moneyball type approach from MLB to the NFL.

    Today's purchasing of a draft pick is yet another really interesting move. (They are reportedly going to just cut Osweiler and eat his $16M guaranteed salary.) These trades are really common in NBA, but I can't remember ever seeing one in the NFL.

    If they can avoid getting swindled by the Patriots for Garoppolo and put together a decent draft, they could be absolutely loaded in the near future. They now have 6 of the top 65 picks in this loaded draft and are going to get a transformative defensive player in Myles Garrett.

    Overall, Cleveland is in much better shape than Baltimore going forward (even without a QB). We'll see how they do vs. the Bengals and Steelers, but I think they're no longer going to be a punching bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happyrid View Post
    Hope this thread is okay. I think what the Browns have been doing is pretty fascinating in really taking an extreme moneyball type approach from MLB to the NFL.

    Today's purchasing of a draft pick is yet another really interesting move. (They are reportedly going to just cut Osweiler and eat his $16M guaranteed salary.) These trades are really common in NBA, but I can't remember ever seeing one in the NFL.

    If they can avoid getting swindled by the Patriots for Garoppolo and put together a decent draft, they could be absolutely loaded in the near future. They now have 6 of the top 65 picks in this loaded draft and are going to get a transformative defensive player in Myles Garrett.

    Overall, Cleveland is in much better shape than Baltimore going forward (even without a QB). We'll see how they do vs. the Bengals and Steelers, but I think they're no longer going to be a punching bag.
    FWIW, a new report coming out from CLE has them saying what interested them was the player, not the pick.

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    Well, forget that:

    Again, Browns shopping Osweiler and late rnd 17, for a 2018 3rd rnd pick and will eat "at least half" of Brock's $16M salary
    Browns telling other teams that they will also eat "at least half" of the $16M due to Osweiler this year to facilitate the trade...

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    Quote Originally Posted by alleycat View Post
    FWIW, a new report coming out from CLE has them saying what interested them was the player, not the pick.
    Interesting, though I guess they have to say that if they don't cut him. I would think that they'd at least keep him because he's at least worth $2M or something as a backup.

    But whether they keep him or cut him, that trade was obviously primarily about them getting the "free" 2nd round pick. And any value (through trade or as a backup) they can get from Osweiler is just a bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happyrid View Post
    Interesting, though I guess they have to say that if they don't cut him. I would think that they'd at least keep him because he's at least worth $2M or something as a backup.

    But whether they keep him or cut him, that trade was obviously primarily about them getting the "free" 2nd round pick. And any value (through trade or as a backup) they can get from Osweiler is just a bonus.
    Go up two posts.

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    Osweiler has offest language in contract. If Browns cut him amd someone else signs him, pick will cost them even less.

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    If I'm a Browns fan, I'm praying the organization stays the course. They could rule the division with an iron fist in five years... until they have to pay all these draft picks.

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    12 + 57 for McCarron, please. (Heck, I might even take 12 and 57 for Dalton and keep McCarron.)

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    Yes - the Browns are a team to watch. I'm sure that the Osweiler deal was a Paul DePodesta special. Interesting approach and you wonder if it sets an NFL precedent for similar-type deals in the future.

    I like Hue and I hope that the Browns field more competitive teams going forward.

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    If the Browns focus of the trade was the pick not the player what they did was illegal per Michael Lombardi tweets:

    @mlombardiNFL: I love the deal for the Browns and would cut "The Heist" but the league has strong rules on not paying for picks and this seems like it

    @mlombardiNFL: Many in the NFL were upset at the Bradford trade this summer, believing that was a cash for draft pick deal. This deal is way more obvious

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