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    Off Topic - Ohio State

    I'm sure some of you have an opinion on this (other schools in the link):

    Best NFL draft picks of century: Top selections from Ohio State

    The Formula: MVP (7 points), Offensive/Defensive Player of the Year (6 points), first-team All-Pro selection (5 points), Offensive/Defensive Rookie of the Year (4 points), Pro Bowl selection within first two years of career (3 points), other Pro Bowl selections (1 point).

    Draft multiplier: Total points for first-round picks x 1.1; second-round picks x 1.2; third-round picks x 1.3; fourth-round picks x 1.4; fifth-round picks x 1.5; sixth-round picks x 1.6; seventh-round picks x 1.7.

    Tiebreaker: Ranking edge to lower-drafted player within same round.

    Specialists and fullbacks: For players honored primarily as specialists or fullbacks, their total points were devalued. Kickers and punters were not included in this exercise.

    We start the series with Ohio State, which has had 115 draft picks since 2000, most among all FBS programs. Although the Buckeyes have turned out NFL draft picks in droves, two youngsters (Ezekiel Elliott, Joey Bosa) totaled top-five scores despite each having just a rookie season on record. Not surprisingly, however, it was an established veteran with a long and decorated career who led the way.

    Click here for the full series schedule.

    Best picks of the century from Ohio State

    1. Nick Mangold, center
    Points: 19.8
    Drafted by: Jets, No. 29 overall pick (Round 1), 2006
    Skinny: Mangold spent 11 seasons with the Jets, which is as strong an indication as any that the club was ultimately thrilled with its selection. He started 16 regular-season games for the first five years of his career and was selected to seven Pro Bowls. Mangold is now a free agent.

    2. Ezekiel Elliott, running back
    Points: 8.8
    Drafted by: Cowboys, No. 4 overall pick (Round 1), 2016
    Skinny: Elliott couldn't have made a bigger splash in his rookie season with the Cowboys, and his selection as a first-team All-Pro helped push him above other former Buckeyes who have logged much longer careers without doing so. It was a spectacular debut (1,631 yards, 15 TDs) that has Cowboys fans anxious for the 2017 encore.

    3. LeCharles Bentley, guard

    Points: 4.8
    Drafted by: Saints, No. 44 overall pick (Round 2), 2002
    Skinny: Bentley's injury-shortened career with the New Orleans Saints wasn't particularly long, but he was effective while it lasted. Bentley was selected to a pair of Pro Bowls in four seasons in New Orleans. He now trains offensive linemen and is an offensive line consultant for Iowa State.

    4. Joey Bosa, defensive end
    Points: 4.4
    Drafted by: Chargers, No. 3 overall pick (Round 1), 2016
    Skinny: Bosa ranked with points garnered strictly from his selection as the Defensive Rookie of the Year, a well-earned honor not only because of his dominant 2016 play, but also considering his season didn't even begin until Week 4. If his 10.5 sacks as a Chargers rookie are a sign of things to come, he could rank much higher on this list in time.

    5. Donte Whitner, safety

    Points: 3.3
    Drafted by: Bills, No. 8 overall pick (Round 1), 2006
    Skinny: Whitner has played 11 seasons, including five with the drafting club (Bills). His career peaked late with three consecutive Pro Bowls from 2012-2014, two as a San Francisco 49er and one with the Cleveland Browns. He finished last season on the Washington Redskins' injured reserve and is currently a free agent.

    Honorable mention
    : CB Nate Clements (1.1 points), DE Will Smith (1.1), LB Ryan Shazier (1.1), S Malcolm Jenkins (1.1).

    Total number of picks from Ohio State since 2000
    : 115

    2017 draft picks from Ohio State (7)
    : CB Marshon Lattimore, Saints (Round 1, No. 11 overall); S Malik Hooker, Colts (Round 1, No. 15); CB Gareon Conley, Raiders (Round 1, No. 24); RB Curtis Samuel, Panthers (Round 2, No. 40); LB Raekwon McMillan, Dolphins (Round 2, No. 54); OL Pat Elflein, Vikings (Round 3, No. 70); WR Noah Brown, Cowboys (Round 7, No. 239).

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    Not a fan but I wouldn't put Whitner in the top 5. And it's a bit early on Zeke and Bosa, but both look great so far.

    I think Nate Clements and even Malcolm Jenkins were better players than Whitner, even though their careers might not have been as long.

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    Early look: What to like about No. 3 Ohio State in 2017

    Paul Myerberg , USA TODAY SportsPublished 9:38 a.m. ET June 26, 2017 | Updated 10 hours ago

    The college football season doesn't start until the fall but it's never too early to start looking ahead.USA TODAY Sports

    (Photo: Greg Bartram, USA TODAY Sports)

    Each week, USA TODAY Sports will give a more detailed look at the teams listed on our early top 25 for the 2017 college football season.
    Up next: No. 3 Ohio State. From top to bottom, it’s hard to find a more talented roster — maybe at Alabama, but nowhere else. The expectations are high for a reason. But with Urban Meyer, a fifth-year senior quarterback and a change in offensive style, the Buckeyes seem ready to notch yet another College Football Playoff berth.

    Why No. 3?

    1. The defensive line. There will be much attention paid to the remaking of the Buckeyes’ offense. But one of the greatest reasons to expect another Playoff run from this team is the production to be found from a defensive line that’s not just the nation’s best but — on paper — one of the most impressive in recent history.
    There’s so much depth that OSU’s defensive staff is experimenting in ways to get more than just four linemen on the field at once. At the very least, the Buckeyes will be able to trout out wave after wave of top-100 bodies at the opposition, giving this defense a great shot at dominating and controlling the point of attack. This team will win games up front on defense.

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    2. Kevin Wilson. The former Indiana head coach will revitalize an offensive attack that clearly lacked explosiveness and inventiveness a year ago. Remember: Ohio State reached a national semifinal last fall despite a mediocre passing game. How good can this team be if the offense improves?
    Wilson is and has long been one of college football’s top offensive technicians, with a fast-paced, spread-out scheme that fits well with the team’s returning personnel — a collection of talent that stands above nearly every team in the country. To combine Wilson’s system with this talent base is a scary proposition for the rest of the Big Ten to consider.

    3. J.T. Barrett. Rest assured that Barrett has heard all the criticisms heaped his way during and after a junior season that fell short of expectations. But there’s a reason he’s a major Heisman Trophy contender: Barrett is perhaps the most experienced starting quarterback in college football and very likely the best leader to be found under center, not to mention highly motivated to make the most of his final season. The shift in offensive style will find Barrett resembling the redshirt freshman who led the Buckeyes to the Playoff.

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    In 2016, no returning FBS QB was better against the blitz than @OhioStateFB's J.T. Barrett.
    5:31 PM - 7 Jun 2017

    Why not higher?

    1. Questions at wide receiver. Curtis Samuel is gone after leading the 2016 team in receptions and receiving yards. Noah Brown, who tied Samuel for the team lead in touchdown grabs, made the surprise decision to enter the NFL draft. Last year’s third-leading receiver, Donte Wilson, was a senior. So where does the receiver core stand heading into the summer?
    It’s a definite question mark for this offense, which demands at least five reliable targets to work effectively. This means the Buckeyes will need consistency and production from a slew of fairly unproven underclassmen: K.J. Hill, Terry McLaurin, Parris Campbell and Johnnie Dixon, to name four.

    2. Playing at Michigan. It’s hard, if not impossible, to find things not to like about Ohio State in 2017. So let’s dig deep and find one potential sticking point: the game at Michigan to end the regular season. The Wolverines might be rebuilding on defense, true, but the program's growth since Jim Harbaugh’s arrival suggests another step toward a national title during this coming season.

    Of course, anything and everything goes out the window in these rivalry games. Just something to consider for a team that seemingly has few faults.

    Biggest games

    ►Vs. Oklahoma, Sept. 9
    ►Vs. Penn State, Oct. 28
    ►At Michigan, Nov. 25

    Three players to know

    1. CB Kendall Sheffield. The junior-college transfer certainly looks the part of Ohio State’s next first-round defensive back.

    2. WR Campbell. While more will be asked of Campbell in the passing game, don’t sleep on his major impact as the Buckeyes’ primary returner

    3. DE Nick Bosa. The younger Bosa brother — after his older brother, Joey — is the program’s next all-everything defensive end.

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    At meatchicken is a reason not to rate them higher? They just lost a TON of players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_NC View Post
    At meatchicken is a reason not to rate them higher? They just lost a TON of players.
    They did but they've still got a lot of talent. I think Ohio State has more but you never know until they play the games.

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    I'm going to the Oklahoma game!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_NC View Post
    I'm going to the Oklahoma game!!
    how many games have you been to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bengals1181 View Post
    how many games have you been to?
    This will be my 3rd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_NC View Post
    I'm going to the Oklahoma game!!
    I'll be there as well!

    Also just got tickets to the packers game! Can't wait to see lambaeu. (Well the inside. I've been on the outside.)

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    I going to try and get a ticket for the Houston game.


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