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    Paul Guenther leaving

    Interesting. Thought the changes would come on offense. Though this looks like it may have been Paul's decision and not a move the Bengals wanted to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happyrid View Post
    Interesting. Thought the changes would come on offense. Though this looks like it may have been Paul's decision and not a move the Bengals wanted to happen.
    Not really surprised... supposedly he was ticketed to be Zimmer's DC, then Jay Gruden's. He and Jay are great friends so I'm sure that he got to know Jon, too. And I'm sure Jay's recommendation went a long way... if he's headed to Oakland, I mean.

    DelRio is a solid D coach, so maybe he's a candidate here. I saw Dom Capers was let go as DC in Green Bay... not a fan of his, but Marvin knows him well.

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    I'm fine with it if Del Rio is a replacement.

    Really want to hear some changes at OC and O-line coaches

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    Quote Originally Posted by happyrid View Post
    Interesting. Thought the changes would come on offense. Though this looks like it may have been Paul's decision and not a move the Bengals wanted to happen.
    OTOH read on that it’s not a done deal with Guenther yet. I think he’s a good DC and if they want to keep him they could give him an Assistant HC title. And jettison Alexander who has the same Assistant HC role. Or not.

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    Wouldn’t be sad if he’s gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by membengal View Post
    Wouldn’t be sad if he’s gone.
    I think he's a pretty good coach.

    The defense in the final two minutes of the 1st half and late in the 4th quarter trying to protect a lead makes me want to pull my hair out though.

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    Yes, that. He’s fine. But it’s not like seeing another zimmer go. They could do worse, but they could also easily do better than Guenther. If we can’t improve the head coach, I am more than willing to try and upgrade at DC...

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    the only issue I ever have had with Paulie (which he got from Zimmer) is that he doesn't blitz nearly enough, and that in particular is what kills them at the end of halves.

    Guenther's defenses have consistenly been at, or near, the bottom of the league in blitz percentage.

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    Any change that they are ballsy enough to do is for the better, aside from Tobin. Though it probably isn't even going to be their decision(s), it is probably only going to be change if someone wants to move on.

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    Defensive coordinator Paul Guenther plans to meet with Mike Brown before making a call.

    Asked what made him sign on the line again he said, “The job’s not done. I was entrusted to win a Super Bowl and I have the opportunity to finish it.”

    The last time Lewis finished a season without a contract was 2010, another losing season at 4-12, and they re-booted with the drafting of Dalton and A.J. Green and made the playoffs five straight seasons. It looks like there’s another re-boot coming, but with some new assistant coaches instead of players.

    Reports that the Bengals are losing defensive coordinator Paul Guenther after four seasons appear to be premature. It's believed he won't make a call until he meets with Mike Brown and that could happen as soon as Wednesday.

    "He'll get a chance to say yes or no and we do or we don't," Lewis said.

    It’s believed they’d like to wrap up Darrin Simmons, the only special teams coordinator Lewis has had here, but that’s not done yet.

    And, going by Lewis’ effusive praise of incumbent offensive coordinator Bill Lazor, he could be sticking with him, which is basically a new hire. Lewis gave his quarterbacks coach the OC duties five days and two games into the season after the Bengals failed to score a touchdown. But it sounds like there could be more moves on the offensive side of the ball to make his coordinator more comfortable as the Bengals try to scratch out of the No. 32 and last offensive ranking in the NFL.

    “He’s very comfortable with how I see it,” Lewis said of Lazor, although he didn’t announce he was the guy. “We basically wasted the 2,000 snaps of OTAs and training camp because it was through another man’s eyes. When Bill took over, Bill was able to try and work through things that had been already done without trying to slow our players down. He tried to work in the constraints of the way things were and the things that had been installed.”

    Lewis is clear on what he wants the 2018 offensive staff to improve:

    “Up front and we have to improve the play of our quarterback and get him back to being comfortable and get him back to be the Andy Dalton we know day in and day out.”

    Lewis isn’t worried about players shutting out his message after 15 seasons.

    “The message changes. The message is never constant. The message changes all the time. Obviously our players hear me. I don’t have any questions about that,” Lewis said. “Hell, the roster changes daily, yearly. Our veteran guys who have been here, the guys we drafted in ’10, the guys that are left from ’09, they’ve done a great job getting the football team moving forward with the young guys that came in ’16 and ’17.”

    If Lewis serves out his two-year deal, he’ll become just the fourth man in the Super Bowl Era to coach the same club for 17 straight seasons, joining Miami’s Don Shula, New England’s Bill Belichick, and Tennessee’s Jeff Fisher.

    Lewis, 59, won his 125th game on Sunday when the Bengals knocked the Ravens out of the playoffs in stunning fashion on a 49-yard TD pass with 44 seconds left on fourth-and-12. That puts him in a tie for 26th on the NFL’s all-time victories list with Jim Mora Sr. Last season he passed Mora with the most regular-season games coached (240) without a play-off victory.

    "I'm not thinking about winning a play-off game. Never crossed my mind," Lewis said. "I'm just thinking about a world's championship."


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