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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by HOF View Post
    What is there to be nervous about? Worst case scenario is the Bengals lose the services of a player most of you didn't want back in the first place. All they've risked is some money they probably wouldn't have spent otherwise.

    Slightly off topic....

    I'm looking at the Jake Fisher story a bit differently this morning. Woke up this morning with my body covered in strange markings and globs of glue-like gel that kept the sensors attached while I had emergency heart surgery. Oh, and most of my pubes are missing.

    I'll spare everyone the personal details but suffice to say I'd feel remiss if I didn't pass along a warning to get life screening tests. My soon to be fired ex-doctor never performed the tests and after misdiagnosing my symptoms spent two years treating for the wrong things. Got to admit I'm a little bit angry about the mistake, but mostly I'm feeling lucky. I'm fine.

    Point being, don't wait for your doctor because he or she may be an idiot. Ask for the test.
    Glad to hear you are ok. Scary stuff. Hopefully you heal up quickly.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by HOF View Post
    What is there to be nervous about? Worst case scenario is the Bengals lose the services of a player most of you didn't want back in the first place. All they've risked is some money they probably wouldn't have spent otherwise.

    Slightly off topic....

    I'm looking at the Jake Fisher story a bit differently this morning. Woke up this morning with my body covered in strange markings and globs of glue-like gel that kept the sensors attached while I had emergency heart surgery. Oh, and most of my pubes are missing.

    I'll spare everyone the personal details but suffice to say I'd feel remiss if I didn't pass along a warning to get life screening tests. My soon to be fired ex-doctor never performed the tests and after misdiagnosing my symptoms spent two years treating for the wrong things. Got to admit I'm a little bit angry about the mistake, but mostly I'm feeling lucky. I'm fine.

    Point being, don't wait for your doctor because he or she may be an idiot. Ask for the test.
    TMI. Big time.

    But I hope all goes well.

  3. #23
    Glad you are ok, Hair. Find an attorney maybe, too.

    Also, I am gonna go ahead and assume at best Eifert is "questionable" already for week 1. I actually expect quickly that the story as camp gets here is the possibility of him going on PUP and we not having him until mid-season...

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by membengal View Post
    Glad you are ok, Hair. Find an attorney maybe, too.
    Not my style. I don't need money and I certainly don't need the aggravation of constantly reliving what could have been. Just going to write it off as an honest mistake while I look for a new doctor.

    I rarely discuss personal stuff on message boards but about two years ago I mentioned how I was going to take a hiatus from posting because I was having difficulty reading and was falling down all the time. A couple of posters mentioned how they or their friends were having the same issues. When my symptoms improved a couple of months later I quickly forgot about it and resumed posting as normal. Obviously that all changed a few days ago. I only mentioned what happened to me in the hopes that it might help somebody else....keep their pubes.

    My good deed is done. I apologize for the interruption. Back to football.

  5. #25
    Take care HOF- thanks for the warning, and more importantly, glad you are getting the care required.

    Like everyone, I’d love to have a healthy Eifert - as we know, he can be the difference-maker in this offense. That said, where my early camp attention will be is on the OL. You have Fisher coming back slowly, a now-healthy Glenn coming back off of an injury-riddled year, and Price, who hasn’t been cleared for contact yet. That’s 3 pencilled-in starters who are learning new techniques, with a new coach.

    Not to mention: Bobby Hart, who is new to the team after washing out in NY; Ced Ogbuehi basically sucking; inexperienced Gs vying for playing time in Redmond and Westerman; and a couple of “just a guys” in TJ Johnson and Tre Hopkins. I’m hopeful for the OL progress, but that’s a whole lot to contend with.

    I do think Mixon can take a big step in 2018 and with Gio back a year plus from the ACL tear, the RBs are a strength on the team... and I feel pretty good about the WR and TE spots, even without Eifert.
    Last edited by texbengal; 06-17-2018 at 08:42 AM.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by texbengal View Post
    That said, where my early camp attention will be is on the OL. You have Fisher coming back slowly, a now-healthy Glenn coming back off of an injury-riddled year, and Price, who hasn’t been cleared for contact yet. That’s 3 pencilled-in starters who are learning new techniques, with a new coach.
    It's 3 penciled in starters coming off injury and a hole at ORG that wasn't addressed at all. Toss in the uncertainty surrounding Eiferet and it's no small wonder Vegas isn't buying the scratched and dented car the Bengals are selling. That said, the potential for immediate improvement is considerable if the Bengals medical staff knows what they're doing.

  7. #27
    5 takeaways from Bengals minicamp as we head into summer break




    A look back at the biggest stories to come out of OTAs as the Bengals hit their summer break.

    By Jason Marcum@marcum89 Jun 18, 2018, 7:00am EDT

    Aaron Doster-USA TODAY Sports

    Minicamp is now completed for the Bengals, who by all accounts have had a very productive slate of OTAs this offseason.

    Since the team first began these workouts in April, we’ve heard mostly great things about the team from players, coaches and media alike. Minicamp was mostly just more confirmation of the good vibes we’ve been getting for the past two months.


    Now, it’s time for a recap of the five biggest takeaways from Bengals minicamp.


    William Jackson
    ’s ascension continues




    The NFL may be sleeping on William Jackson, but those around Cincinnati know he has the potential to become a superstar. He already played at a
    high level in his first year as a starter in 2017. All indications have been Jackson has only improved this offseason and is ready for a bigger step in
    2018.


    It certainly helps that Jackson has spent most of the offseason going head to head with A.J. Green, one of the 2-3 best receivers in football. If
    Jackson manages to improve upon his breakout 2017 season, he could wind up being the Bengals’ best player in 2018, and that’s saying something
    with a roster that has Green and Geno Atkins.


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    John Ross
    getting back to form




    John Ross is hoping to follow Jackson’s path of having his big breakout in Year 2 after injuries effectively ended their rookie seasons. Ross was able
    to appear in several games last year, but he was never right while recovering from shoulder surgery, only to sustain another shoulder injury during the
    season.




    Now that Ross has had plenty of time to rest and recover, he’s gotten a full
    workload in OTAs, and he’s shown glimpses of the player Cincinnati thought they were getting with the ninth overall pick.


    Cedric Ogbuehi
    salvaging career




    One of the most consistent themes in OTAs has been the improvements of Cedric Ogbuehi. Now entering a contract year after his fifth-year option
    was declined, expect Ogbuehi to step it up a notch in 2018, and it helps that new offensive line coach Frank Pollack has provided a new and
    improved coach for this position.

    Obviously, we can only take away so much from pad-less OTAs, but it has been good to hear Ogbuehi consistently drawing praise throughout the
    offseason. He probably won’t have a starting spot when Week 1 opens, but it would be great if he could become a sixth swing lineman that can play
    throughout the line.


    Remember, the plan is for Ogbuehi to get a lot of work at guard in training camp, so it’s not out of the question he’s the starting right guard at some
    point.


    Watch out for Auden Tate




    The Bengals have been severely lacking a jump-ball receiver that consistently won one-on-one matchups since Marvin Jones left. The hope is Tate
    can become that, at least as a red-zone threat with his 6-5, 228-pound frame, and he’s been doing just that in OTAs.


    Tate is still facing some tough odds of making the Week 1 roster, but a good showing in OTAs has his stock trending upward heading into training

    camp.


    Don’t count on Tyler Eifert



    Another year, another offseason of concerns and questions with Tyler Eifert. He missed most of 2017 with knee and back injuries, though he was
    believed to be recovered from them when OTAs began. He took part in most of the sessions up until training camp, then was a mysterious absentee
    on Day 1 before missing the final two practices.


    Then, Marvin Lewis refused to say if Eifert would even be ready for the first full day of camp. Perhaps Eifert was never as healthy as we thought as
    he went through pad-less OTAs, or maybe there was some kind of setback he suffered.


    Whatever the case may be, the Bengals just can’t count on Eifert as anything more than a bonus if he’s able to play and be effective.






    https://www.cincyjungle.com/2018/6/18/17468754/5-takeaways-from-bengals-minicamp-as-we-head-into-summer-break










  8. #28
    Camp hits: Green eyes century; Ross wreaks havoc in space; Price continues grind; TBT on line

    Posted Jun 14, 2018
    Geoff HobsonEditorBengals.com



    John Ross put his numerous skills on display for the longest stretch of his NFL career this past month.

    A.J. Green has never been a numbers guy but as he went off on summer vacation Thursday he did reveal one he’d like to get. The nice round number that comes with 100 touchdowns. He just likes the sound of it. And he says he wants to do it as a Bengal.

    Green turns 30 the week training camp starts but he didn’t look a day over 25 during the minicamp just completed. With 57 TDs and his contract up
    after next season, that means another extension and the Bengals’ all-time TD record. Running back Pete Johnson currently has it with 70 and Chad
    Johnson has the receiving TDs record with 66, which means he could break both this season.

    Only eight wide receivers have at least 100 TDs and one of them is still active with Larry Fitzgerald’s 110. All seven who are retired are in the Hall of
    Fame and Fitzgerald is headed there. Green is tied for 11th on the active receiving TDs list with Mike Wallace and Demaryious Thomas, two behind
    Antonio Brown.

    ROSS CAMP:
    John Ross, Green’s fellow first-round receiver, is looking for that first NFL touchdown catch and he feels closer to it as camp finished.
    It capped his most consistent practice time as a pro and his last play of the spring summed up what he does best. The man is just plain dangerous in
    space. Like he says, “I want to be a problem for other teams. That’s kind of what I’m going for.”


    This particular problem surfaced with about five minutes left in the workout:

    Third-and-five and offensive coordinator Bill Lazor’s last words are, “Get the first down.” He sends Ross on a drag route across the middle of the field
    to emphasize his speed and Ross just happens to be running it against the guy that is probably the second fastest player on the team in cornerback
    William Jackson. Quarterback Andy Dalton hits Ross in stride, making Jackson a tad late, getting the first down and sending Jackson into an
    anguished reaction.

    “Good job, John,” said Lazor as Jackson seethed.

    “In a game situation that possibly could have been a touchdown,” Ross said after practice. “When I get routes like that and I see the coverage and I
    know I’m one-on-one, I get to showcase my speed, especially against someone fast like that … that’s always fun.”

    Ross had some big days in camp. He did struggle at times with contested catches, but overall receivers coach Bob Bicknell is pleased with what he
    got from Ross in his first look at him. Lazor also loves Ross’ attitude because he wants to be known as a player and not the fastest guy in the history
    of the scouting combine.

    “He’s really got that elite speed and quickness and he can catch the ball,” Bicknell said. “He can catch the ball as well as anybody in drills. When he’s
    running right at me where you can really judge how he reaches and catches it, he frames it perfectly. He just needs to be more consistent, but he’s an
    impressive guy.”

    Ross is the first to tell you he’s working on his confidence. “Mentally is the biggest part. It can carry you.” He’s getting a lift from his fellow speedster
    since Jackson, the first-round pick from 2016, also lost his rookie year to injury.

    “Me and Will talk about it all the time. That was the first thing Will and I talked about this year,” Ross said. (Jackson said) “‘Look at me. I got hurt and
    last year I had a good year. You got it. You work hard. You’ve got what it takes. Just work hard every day and you’ll l be OK.’”

    Ross admits he’s still trying to get past last season’s injury in the mind’s eye, like on one deep ball late in practice on Wednesday that he approached
    tentatively as it fell to the turf. But after going through two shoulder injuries and a knee problem, he seems to be bouncing back well.

    “Not to make excuses, but once I shift my mind to, ‘you’re going to be OK and don’t be such a baby about it,’ I’ll be fine. I have thought about it. Don’t
    overdo it. It’s only minicamp. But as soon as we get to camp it’s going to be completely different, I’ll have much more time in recovery. I’ll be fine. I
    think it’s still me progressing every day and not trying to overdo it.”

    During the break he also plans to keep working out with former Bengals wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh, a routine he began in early April in
    California.

    “He saw how much I wanted him to be a part of it and how serious I am,” Ross said. “I like to improve. I don’t like to stay the same.”



    So far, Auden Tate has been a catch.


    SLANTS AND SCREENS:


    _A little throwback Thursday up front when three of the more well-known linemen in Bengals history surfaced at practice. Pro Football Hall-of-Fame
    left tackle Anthony Munoz and Pro Bowl nose tackle Tim Krumrie, two of the top three vote-getters in last year's Bengals First 50 fan vote, were on
    hand as well another first 50 Bengal, Max Montoya, the franchise's all-time right guard.

    New offensive line coach Frank Pollack immediately came over to greet them and needed no introductions, especially since he played in Munoz's golf
    tournament on Monday. Pollack, a backup O-lineman for the 49ers in the '90s, doesn't think he ever played against Krumrie. But when Krumrie was
    an NFL defensive line coach for three teams and 15 seasons, he developed a well-known reputation

    "I told him I enjoyed when he was coaching D-line working guys out for the draft process. He wore them out," Pollack said. "It was fun to watch and
    he had an approach that I respect and like, too. He was an intense guy as well."

    Pollack actually overlapped playing in the league with Munoz and Montoya.

    "That was cool seeing those guys. Those guys were special," Pollack said. "I wouldn't say Munoz overshadowed Montoya. But, the greatest of all-
    time, people say, right? He had some really talented players with him. Montoya was a Pro Bowl player. He was a freaking stud."

    Krumrie, accompanied by 27-year-old son Dexter, recently moved back to Cincinnati from Colorado, in large part to be around his former teammates.
    It's been a good month for that with Thursday's reunion and Munoz's tournament, as well as last week's NFL Alumni golf outing.

    _There is going to be no break for first-round pick Billy Price. He says he’ll be here until camp starts rehabbing his shoulder surgery that kept him out
    of the spring drills as the starting center. But he’s about a month ahead of schedule and can pretty much do it all. He’s doing the exercise that partially
    tore his pectoral, the bench press, and reported on Thursday while his teammates were scattering to the four corners he bench-pressed 315 pounds
    four times. The only restriction is that rehab chief Nick Cosgray has to watch him lift.

    _Seventh-round pick Auden Tate, the monstrous Florida State wide receiver and last of the Bengals’ 11 draft picks, is making a real run at the roster.
    At 6-5, 228 pounds Tate has caught everything despite his marginal 40 speed but there are no indications they’re moving him to H-Back. Asked about
    Tate’s catch radius by Bengals radio voice Dan Hoard, Ross gave him a great future training camp bite with, “I think it’s ridiculous. It looks like the ball
    is always out of his reach, but it’s never out of reach for him.”

    _ A good day for sophomore safety Brandon Wilson. He got the defense’s fourth interception in the last two practices when a pass glanced off wide
    receiver Alex Erickson’s hands over the middle and Wilson got the tip. Also, right after Lewis reminded him to play tighter (“play the force,”) Wilson
    forced an incompletion when he punched the ball from Erickson as they collided in the middle.





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