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    Mandatory Minicamp Started Monday

    Bengals injury roundup from first minicamp practice

    Jake Fisher and Shawn Williams were among those able to practice, but several others were sidelined with various issues, including Tyler Eifert.

    By Jason Marcum@marcum89 Jun 12, 2018, 5:18pm EDT

    Aaron Doster-USA TODAY Sports

    The Bengals hit the field Tuesday for their first of three minicamp sessions.
    Among those not able to practice for one reason or another included Tyler Eifert, Tyler Kroft, Tra Carson, Josh Shaw, T.J. Johnson and Darius Phillips.
    Paul Dehner Jr.

    All defensive/special teams players are here for #Bengals. Injury or rehab have Eifert, Kroft, TJJohnson and Tra Carson not participating.
    2:28 PM - Jun 12, 2018

    Jay Morrison

    Rookie CB Darius Phillips was out here to start practice but appears to have gone in. DB Josh Shaw sitting on sideline with right shoulder wrapped. #Bengals
    3:00 PM - Jun 12, 2018

    Kroft has been sidelined for OTAs due to an unknown injury, but it sounds like he’ll be good to go when training camp begins.

    Jim Owczarski

    When the #Bengals open up their work inside PBS today, tight end Tyler Kroft won’t be with the full squad yet - but he expects to be full go for start of training camp.
    1:45 PM - Jun 12, 2018

    Eifert is out with some sort of mysterious issue, so hopefully that’s nothing serious. He really can’t afford another major injury if he ever wants to earn a big payday from any NFL team.

    Carson has been missing OTAs and is already facing stiff odds of making the final roster. He needs to be fully healthy when training camp begins to have any hope of beating out guys like Mark Walton, Brian Hill and Quinton Flowers for a roster spot.
    Despite continuing to miss OTAs with an unknown injury, Johnson is likely to make the final roster as a backup center and guard. He’s got one year left on his deal, however, so his spot if far from being a lock if he keeps missing time and doesn’t perform well in training camp.

    It’s unclear what’s plaguing Phillips, who’s fighting for a roster spot after being a Day 3 selection in this year’s NFL Draft. Depending on how the cornerback position shakes out, he could be battling Shaw for a spot, who is entering the final year of his rookie deal. he’s also coming off a bad 2017 season, so his roster spot should be far from secure in 2018.

    Now, time for some great news: Jake Fisher is healthy and working his way toward winning the right tackle spot:

    Jay Morrison

    Jake Fisher seeing his first 11s work this offseason. At RT with 2s. #Bengals
    2:55 PM - Jun 12, 2018

    Fisher is working his way back from a procedure for atrial fibrillation during the 2017 season. It was a scary ordeal at the time, but it looks like Fisher will be able to resume his football career and compete for a starting spot in 2018.

    More good news came as Shawn Williams returned to practice after being sidelined in previous OTA sessions:

    Jay Morrison

    Shawn Williams seeing his first 11s work this offseason. Dre Kirkpatrick back to full go. #Bengals
    3:21 PM - Jun 12, 2018

    Williams’ unknown injury was never thought to be serious, and it gave rookie Jessie Bates a chance to get more reps as he vies for a big role in 2018.
    In a bit of a surprise, Logan Woodside was present and working at Tuesday’s camp session, which came hours after it was revealed he was arrested for a DUI on Saturday.

    Joe Danneman

    Logan Woodside is participating in today's mini camp afternoon practice. #Bengals
    2:36 PM - Jun 12, 2018

    Even though the Bengals’ just drafted Woodside, he was only a seventh-round pick, and his future is very cloudy after his arrest.
    For what it’s worth, Carlos Dunlap was present after missing previous OTA sessions while hoping to land a new contract.

    Paul Dehner Jr.

    Looks like Dunlap not participating in any of the 11 on 11 sessions. But he is here. #HalfTheBattle
    2:58 PM - Jun 12, 2018

    We probably shouldn’t expect to see any Dunlap this week as he tries to avoid an injury and eventually get a new contract. He’s working under the final year of his deal, but there’s optimism an extension can be reached.

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    Quick hits: Eifert not back Tuesday; Dalton finds Ross, Malone deep

    Posted 18 hours ago

    Tyler Eifert taking it slow after back surgery.

    The Bengals continue to play it conservatively this spring with Tyler Eifert’s surgically-repaired back, although head coach Marvin Lewis was
    surprised his starting tight end wasn’t on the field for Tuesday’s first practice of mandatory minicamp.

    “He was here all morning and then all of a sudden he wasn’t,” Lewis said after practice. “I’m sure he’s being dealt with in some kind of medical
    fashion. That’s the only reason a guy wouldn’t be here.”

    The Bengals have pretty much kept Eifert out of team work this spring as he recovers from the back surgery that limited him to just two games last
    season. But there’s an air of mystery around his comeback.

    “Don’t know. Don’t know,” said Lewis when asked if it is Eifert’s back and if it’s a concern. “He’s been feeling good about things and they’ve been
    feeling good about things. As time goes on when we start to play football then we’ll have an idea where he is.”

    It sounds like he’ll be here Wednesday but not practicing.

    alton had some nice success tossing the long ball with those young receivers in both Tuesday’s team work and drills.
    John Ross and Josh Malone had impressive days and each caught bombs in stride. Ross went deep a couple of times and Malone made some nice
    catches over the middle ….

    Of course, wide receiver A.J. Green made the play of the day. Dalton underthrew a bomb and when cornerback Tony McRae couldn’t find it, Green
    leaped and plucked it off his helmet …

    Malone and Ross were just some of the guys returning kicks as special teams coordinator Darrin Simmons experiments with the new kick-off
    alignment. But one thing is for sure. Rookie running back Mark Walton, a special teams maven at the U, is going to get a workout on both sides of the
    tee …

    WILL linebacker Vontaze Burfict looks to be in mid-season form. He gobbled up a screen and running back Giovani Bernard in one swoop …

    Offensive line coach Frank Pollack is being pretty liberal as he mixes up his first- and second-team lines. For instance, left tackle Cedric Ogbuehi,
    backing up Cordy Glenn, and right tackle Bobby Hart, battling Jake Fisher, spent some of the day flopping ...

    The Bengals aren’t obligated to comment on injuries in the spring and they don’t … rookie cornerback Darius Phillips appeared to suffer some kind of leg or foot injury early in practice, but indications are it’s not serious. Veteran safety Josh Shaw sat out with an unknown injury. Rookie wide receiver
    Devonte Boyd appeared to hurt his shoulder making a diving catch during one-on-one drills early in practice and he didn’t return … Running back Tra
    and guard center T.J. Johnson were on the rehab field …

    Before practice left end Carlos Dunlap doubted he’d see a ton of snaps this week with a nod to Animal Planet: “A cheetah doesn't stretch before he
    runs, but it's a professional football league so you've got to prep things properly and be mindful of what you're doing so you can have that long and
    healthy career, which I've been fortunate to have to this point.” He was right. On Tuesday he appeared not to take a snap in team work ...

    Fisher, who has been nursing a shoulder injury, says he’s ready to go full out this week in what is believed to be a battle between him and Hart for the
    starting job. His fourth mandatory is the first under new offensive line coach Frank Pollack and Fisher says Pollack’s no-gray-area style has helped
    him. On Tuesday it appeared they weren't asking Fisher to do a lot in team ...

    One area where Lewis doesn’t get enough credit is the team’s attendance during the spring, especially in the last eight seasons of the A.J. Green-
    Andy Dalton Era. While many teams battle the Pro Football Talk glare of no show controversies (this year, just to name a few, it’s the Giants, Pats,
    and Seahawks), Dunlap is the first no show with Green and Dalton and he’s back this week. The Bengals spring controversy quotient is usually nil.

    “We haven’t really had that,” Dalton said. “Part of it is guys want to be here, want to work. We’ve got the right type of people that want to be here and
    want to work.

    “There’s different things that go on. Some guys don’t show up because they don’t want to be there. Some guys have stuff they need to handle. For

    this team and for the guys we have here, everybody is here and everybody is working.” ...

    The Bengals have been big supporters of the 2018 Bill Walsh NFL Minority Coaching Fellowship program since Lewis is a product of the program
    named after Walsh, a Pro Football Hall of Fame coach that got his NFL start in Cincinnati as one of head coach Paul Brown’s top offensive
    lieutenants during the Bengals’ first eight seasons. Defensive coordinator Teryl Austin and defensive line coach Jacob Burney also were interns in the

    On Tuesday the Bengals named their four Walsh interns:

    -Gerald Chatman, special teams coordinator/outside linebackers coach at Tennessee State University. Chatman, who played on the defensive line at
    the University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh, also coached at Wisconsin-Oshkosh, as well as Ball State, Butler, Texas A&M and Elon. He’s also served as a
    coaching intern with the Broncos and Packers. Chatman assisted with the Bengals’ defensive line during the last week of OTAs and continues
    through minicamp end on Thursday.

    -Elizabeth “ZZ” Gore, assistant director of sports performance at the University of Houston. Gore, a track athlete in college at Purdue, helps lead
    Houston’s exercise science and performance training program for football and several other sports. She has previous strength and conditioning
    coaching experience at Mississippi State, the University of Montana and Purdue, and she was also a sports performance intern at the University of
    Cincinnati in 2013. Gore plans to assist the Bengals’ strength and conditioning staff during training camp.

    -Aaron McGinty, run game coordinator/outside linebackers coach at Millsaps College. McGinty has 10 years of college coaching experience, as well
    as NFL coaching intern experience with Jacksonville, Arizona, Carolina and Detroit. McGinty plans to assist with the Bengals’ linebackers during
    training camp.

    -Isaac Parker, offensive coordinator at Lewis and Clark College. Parker, who played at Williamette University in Oregon, coached in the high school
    ranks in Oregon for 10 years before moving to the college game in 2015. He’ll assist with the Bengals’ offensive line during training camp.

    “This program provides direct exposure for the NFL clubs to potential future coaching candidates,” Lewis said in a news release. “And for the
    candidates, it provides an opportunity to not only interact with NFL coaches, but also learn concepts, scheme and get an opportunity to continue to
    work at their craft.”

    _Rookie quarterback Logan Woodside, a seventh-rounder out of Toldeo, practiced Tuesday after getting a DUI over the weekend, according to
    published reports. The reports said he was arrested Saturday at 3:46 a.m. by Bellevue, Ky., police. The Bengals said Tuesday they are aware of the
    incident and gathering more info.

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    Quick hits: Eifert question mark for camp; three-pick day; Joe all go

    Posted 14 hours ago

    Cornerback Darqueze Dennard had one of Wednesday's three interceptions.

    Tight end Tyler Eifert stretched with the team before Wednesday’s mandatory minicamp practice but just watched the rest of the way. That may or
    may not be what we see when training camps starts in 43 days as he continues to recover from back surgery. Lewis said he doesn’t know if Eifert is
    going to be ready for July 26.

    He said there has not been a setback, although Eifert did work against defenders in drills in the weeks leading up to this week. Lewis indicated one of
    the reasons they’re keeping Eifert out of the mandatory is because the Bengals are working on the slick, new synthetic field that was placed in Paul
    Brown Stadium earlier this month while the grass fields are re-sodded.

    “There’s no reason to get him jostled,” Lewis said. “Just ease his way into things. No setback. We’re trying to make sure we manage everything they
    want him to do.

    “When they tell him they release him, he’ll be ready. The main thing is he keeps up with it mentally. When he was getting the reps he was getting
    before, when there was a defense over there, it was good.”

    Defensive coordinator Teryl Austin has been banging the drum for more turnovers sine he signed back in January and
    Wednesday was his kind of day when the defensive backs came up with three interceptions. With the free-agent courting of safeties in an offseason
    capped by the drafting of ball-hawking safety Jessie Bates in the second round, seven-year safety George Iloka gave them something to ponder after
    he dropped back in a zone over the middle and stretched to pluck Andy Dalton’s ball out of the air intended for wide receiver Brandon LaFell. Lewis
    called it the best catch he’s seen Iloka make on an NFL field. The play also showed how popular Iloka is among his mates because the sideline

    “That was a nice football play. That was good to see for him. For George, that’s a good confidence play for him,” Lewis said.

    Another regular, cornerback Darqueze Dennard, read backup quarterback Matt Barkley’s eyes in the red zone on third-and-six from the 6 and cut in
    front of slanting rookie wide receiver Auden Tatefor another pick. First-year corner Sojourn Shelton held on to Barkley’s ball thrown virtually right at

    “It’s all right, but we gave some up,” Austin said. “We have to do better. That’s good. Those are things we want, but we also want to make sure we
    don’t give any up.”

    By the way, Tate, the 6-5, 228-pounder the Bengals took in the seventh round, displayed his reliable hands. He made a nice tip-toe catch along the
    back line of the end zone and made a diving catch despite jamming his foot as he dove.

    Joe Mixon
    (28) is shaking off his rookie inexperience.

    JOE ON GO:
    Running backs coach Kyle Caskey has been bullish on sophomore Joe Mixon and says he’s taken a big step this spring. Offensive
    coordinator Bill Lazor says it’s been fun to watch him develop after he challenged his No. 1 to be a complete back.

    “When you’re a rookie back and being part of a backfield that had as many as three guys playing, some of the more intricate things went to the
    veterans because there are only so many reps,” said Lazore before Wednesday’s minicamp practice. “Then you get to a point, ‘This guy should be
    able to do it all.’ Whether it’s a multitude of runs, different specialty plays, the passing game, protections, running routes. If you’re as talented as we
    thought when we brought you in here and you’re a smart guy, let’s do it all. Let’s have all that stuff in the toolbox … I’m really excited for him.”

    Lewis, always careful to rave, didn’t mince words on Mixon.

    “His role will be expanded,” Lewis said. “Joe has been great since the day he walked in this door. His effort, his energy. Now his sophomore year, he
    understands his attention to detail has to be better.”

    Lazor is also a big Giovani Bernard guy, a third-down back that can also carry the load.
    “He’s more than a year back off the knee injury,” Lazor said. “Think of all the big plays, all the production he had last year coming off that (ACL)

    Pro Bowl defensive tackle Geno Atkins didn’t make it out to the field until about 75 minutes into Wednesday’s two-hour

    practice. Lewis said he had a personal matter to tend to. “That’s one of the ten times he’s talked to me in 10 years,” said Lewis of the famously silent

    _Out of practice but expected to be OK for training camp in seven weeks: tight end Tyler Kroft, guard-center T.J. Johnson, cornerback Darius Phillips,
    tackle Justin Murray and wide receiver Devonte Boyd.

    _Right tackle Jake Fisher, cleared back in February following his November heart procedure, has been dealing with a shoulder issue much of the
    spring and has been working in and out. This week Lewis says he’s been released “somewhat,” and Fisher acknowledged before Wednesday’s
    practice he’s rusty.

    With a training camp battle looming with Bobby Hart, Lewis says it’s the right time: “He doesn’t want to give up too much of a head start … he can
    work his way back so when training camp comes around he’s up and running.”

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    Fool me once. Shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.

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    As I see it, anything we get from Mr Glass this year is icing. Expensive icing, but icing nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_NC View Post
    As I see it, anything we get from Mr Glass this year is icing. Expensive icing, but icing nonetheless.
    Prob the right way to look at it, but it also puts a ton of pressure on Ross IMO. If Eifert isn’t healthy we NEED someone to step up as a number 2 threat to compliment AJ. We have seen in the andy dalton Aj green era if there isn’t a second threat (whether it’s eifert or Marvin Jones) we struggle. Hopefully Ross or Malone or someone can be that guy.

    Only other option is to have a top tier oline or running game and I don’t know that we have either.

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    So, six weeks before training camp starts and people are already losing their water over Eifert being held out of a mini camp practice?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bengalbro View Post
    Fool me once. Shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.
    Or, as former Presidemt Bush said... there’s an old Texas saying...

    Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on you... uhhh... fool me... uhhh... fool me won’t fool me agin’!

    Or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBandJoeyV View Post
    Prob the right way to look at it, but it also puts a ton of pressure on Ross IMO. If Eifert isn’t healthy we NEED someone to step up as a number 2 threat to compliment AJ. We have seen in the andy dalton Aj green era if there isn’t a second threat (whether it’s eifert or Marvin Jones) we struggle. Hopefully Ross or Malone or someone can be that guy.

    Only other option is to have a top tier oline or running game and I don’t know that we have either.
    It’s early, and even at that, I think most would be happy if he played in 10 games. Obviously not as talented, but I think between Kroft and C.J., you have two solid TE options... and even though it’s early you gotta like what we’re hearing about Auden Tate. Huge target but a slow WR... but man, he can go up and get it.


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