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  1. #11
    RB Thomas Rawls cut.

    wonder what signing is coming. Maybe Keivare Russell? Seems like a heavy DB two weeks, plus we just lost one.

  2. #12
    We worked out Clive Walford, so possibly him.

  3. #13
    Packers signed Tra Carson today btw

  4. #14
    Glad for Carson and Goodwin... they deserved a roster shot. In Dallas, Jourdan Lewis hasn’t been playing very well... will be interesting to see what happens there.

    With Rawls gone, that leaves Walton and Mixon. Gotta think another RB gets a shot.

  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by gatorclaws View Post
    We worked out Clive Walford, so possibly him.

    Also Blake Bell and Khari Lee who are both TE's.

    Wonder if Kroft is injured more than they've let on?

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by texbengal View Post
    With Rawls gone, that leaves Walton and Mixon. Gotta think another RB gets a shot.

    they seem to like Erickson as the emergency guy, and then there's also Brandon Wilson.

  7. #17
    Jay MorrisonVerified account @JayMorrisonATH 17h17 hours agoMore

    #Bengals going with black jerseys and black pants Sunday vs. Steelers. They are 16-12-1 in that combo.

  8. #18
    Bengals three and out: Atkins keeps dieting on QBs, Burfict missing on third down and Pittsburgh pwnage
    CINCINNATI – Geno Atkins is on pace to set records – and has his new defensive coordinator in awe – with a couple more sacks against the Dolphins. Michael Johnson​ and​ Sam​ Hubbard got​​ most of the attention Sunday, and rightfully so, after both defensive linemen scored the first touchdowns of their careers, sparking the comeback win.

    Film Study: Jessie Bates Quietly Starring In Cincinnati
    You’ve heard about Derwin James, Darius Leonard, Denzel Ward and Fred Warner as the top Defensive Rookie of the Year candidates, and rightfully so. All four are having excellent first-year campaigns and deserve plenty of praise for their play five games into the 2018 season.

    Game Preview: Pittsburgh Steelers at Cincinnati Bengals
    The 4-1 Cincinnati Bengals this week look to build on their strong start to the 2018 season and solidify their hold on first place in the AFC North Division. But to do so, they will have to beat the Pittsburgh Steelers, a team which has proven to be a longtime nemesis for Cincinnati, and a team which, for many Bengals fans, is their most-loathed divisional rival.

    Bengals Go Prime Time vs. Chiefs
    Riding a 4-1 start spiced by three fourth-quarter comebacks, the Bengals have played their way into a prime-time spot when they meet the 5-0 Chiefs Oct. 21 on NBC’s Sunday Night Football.

    NFL Week 5 Grades: Saints earn 'A+', Bengals and Browns get 'A's, Broncos fail miserably in loss
    Although there were more exciting wins on Sunday (the Browns winning with a knuckleball) and there were crazier wins (the Panthers winning on a 63-yard field goal), the Bengals might have pulled off the most improbable win when they came back from a 17-0 deficit to beat the Dolphins 27-17.

    PFF dive: Dalton's pressure points, Roethlisberger's deep dip
    Alex Redmond (60.9): The Bengals’ starting right guard allowed five more pressures on Sunday against Miami and has allowed the second-most pressures (21) and tied for the most penalties (5) of any guard in the NFL. Only Minnesota’s Mike Remmers (24) has allowed more pressures than Redmond. Kansas City’s Laurent Duvernay-Tardif also has committed five penalties. Redmond’s only been attributed for one sack and one quarterback hit, but the 19 hurries are what has thrown his protection into disarray.

    Bengals coasting, Steelers suffer another Antonio Brown distraction
    Cincinnati Bengals fans won’t find this too surprising — the Pittsburgh Steelers have another big distraction courtesy of star wideout Antonio Brown.

    Believe In the Bengals: They Are Legitimately Good
    They’ve emerged as front-runners in a tough AFC North, which is stacked with talented teams that have had issues winning football games. The Bengals, meanwhile, may not boast the same roster talent as the Pittsburgh Steelers, but they also don’t have the same headaches. They’ve figured out how to win games over Indianapolis Colts, Atlanta Falcons, Baltimore Ravens and Miami Dolphins.

    Bengals off to hot start, but Steelers game looms large
    The televisions were airing the conclusion of the Browns-Ravens game on Sunday afternoon just minutes after the Bengals came back to win 27-17 against the Dolphins. A number of players came through the tunnel and stopped to watch the game before Bengals coach Marvin Lewishurried them along.

  9. #19
    Game Preview: Pittsburgh Steelers at Cincinnati Bengals

    Kickoff: 1 p.m. Eastern.
    Television: The game will air on CBS-TV. In the Bengals’ home region, it will be carried by WKRC-TV (Ch. 12) in Cincinnati, WHIO-TV (Ch. 7) in Dayton and on WKYT-TV (Ch. 27) in Lexington. Broadcasters are Ian Eagle (play-byplay), Dan Fouts (analyst) and Evan Washburn (sideline reporter).
    Radio: The game will air on the Bengals Radio Network, led by Cincinnati flagship stations WLW-AM (700), WCKY-AM (ESPN 1530; all sports) and WEBN-FM (102.7). Broadcasters are Dan Hoard (play-by-play) and Dave Lapham (analyst).
    Tickets: Tickets may be purchased by calling the Bengals Ticket Hotline at (513) 621-8383, online at or by visiting the Paul Brown Stadium ticket office. The Bengals Ticket Hotline and ticket office hours are from 9 a.m.-5 p.m. Mondays through Fridays. Tickets may be purchased 24/7 through Fans can call the Bengals Ticket Hotline or chat with a ticket representative online if they have any questions.
    For those who purchase individual game tickets on or the Official Bengals app will not be subject to additional processing fees when they choose mobile tickets as the delivery option.

    Setting the scene: The 4-1 Cincinnati Bengals this week look to build on their strong start to the 2018 season and solidify their hold on first place in the AFC North Division. But to do so, they will have to beat the Pittsburgh Steelers, a team which has proven to be a longtime nemesis for Cincinnati, and a team which, for many Bengals fans, is their most-loathed divisional rival.

    There is no denying that Pittsburgh, which enters Sunday’s game at Paul Brown Stadium with a 2-2-1 record, has proven itself worthy of being the object of Cincinnati fans’ frustrations. Not only that, but the Steelers, who own a 62-35 all-time series lead over the Bengals, have been remarkably consistent in doing so over a span of more than 25 years. The Steelers are winners of six straight meetings, as well as nine of the last 10, and 14 of the last 17, and 19 of the last 24, and 29 of the last 39, and — going all the way back to 1991 — 42 of the last 56. At no point during that 27-season stretch from 1991-2017 have the Bengals won more than two consecutive meetings. The spell includes Steelers wins in the teams’ only two postseason battles, in 2005 and ’15, both home playoff games for the Bengals.

    Of course, none of those past particulars will matter when the two teams meet this weekend, and history will play no role in the outcome of Sunday’s important matchup. What may matter, perhaps, is the fact that Cincinnati seemingly has the wind at its back after consecutive come-from-behind wins the past two weeks, in addition to the momentum of its 4-1 start.

    Two weeks ago, the Bengals won a thrilling 37-36 road contest at Atlanta when QB Andy Dalton led a 16-play, 75 yard drive in the game’s final four minutes that ended with a 13-yard touchdown pass to WR A.J. Green with seven seconds left. Last week at home, Cincinnati rallied from a 17-0 deficit, scoring 27 unanswered points, including 24 in the fourth quarter, for a 27-17 win over the Miami Dolphins.

    The come-from-behind victory over the Dolphins was just the eighth time in Bengals history that the team rallied from a deficit of 17 or more points to win. It also was just the fourth time in team history that the Bengals scored 24 or more points in the fourth quarter of a game.

    The Dolphins game was the third contest this season in which Dalton has led a game-winning drive. He led the Bengals on a nine-play, 67-yard march that resulted in a 20-yard field goal and a 20-17 lead with 3:30 left. It was his 23rd career game-winning drive, which is defined as a drive that results in an offensive score in the fourth quarter or overtime that is responsible for putting the team ahead to stay (PATs included). Dalton’s total of 23 sets a new franchise mark, surpassing the 22 logged by former Bengals QB Boomer Esiason (1984-92, ’97). Since 2011, the year the Bengals drafted him, Dalton has the second most game-winning drives in the league, trailing only Detroit Lions QB Matthew Stafford, who has 30 in the same eight-season span. With three game-winning drives in the Bengals’ first five games, Dalton needs three more in the final 11 contests to set a new team record for most in a season. The current record of five was set by former QB Jeff Blake in 1996, and then tied by former QB Carson Palmer in ’09.

    Cincinnati had entered the Miami game ranked 29th in the NFL in net yards allowed per game (419.3) and 32nd in third-down efficiency (35 of 61; 57.4 percent), but the Bengals’ defense was stout overall against the Dolphins. Miami gained just 297 yards and converted only four of 13 third downs (30.8 percent). The Dolphins’ offense scored just 10 points — one of Miami’s TDs was a punt return — and never ran a play from scrimmage in the red zone.

    The Bengals’ defense was especially strong on the defensive line, which harassed Dolphins QB Ryan Tannehill repeatedly — particularly in the fourth quarter — and was responsible for 14 of the team’s 24 fourth-quarter points. DE Michael Johnson returned a Tannehill interception 22 yards for a touchdown with 11:43 left to tie the game 17-17. Then, after Dalton led the drive that put the Bengals ahead 20-17, DE Sam Hubbard recovered a Tannehill fumble and returned it 19 yards for a TD with 2:37 left to put the game out of reach for Miami. It was the first time in Bengals history that two Bengals defensive linemen scored a touchdown in the same game, and it was the first time that two defensive linemen scored in the same quarter of an NFL game since Dec. 10, 1989 when Keith Millard and Tim Newton each scored TDs for Minnesota.

    Bengals DT Geno Atkins recorded two sacks against the Dolphins, and DE Carlos Dunlap added another. Atkins enters the Steelers game tied for the NFL lead in sacks with six, while Dunlap enters the contest tied for 11th with four. Also against the Dolphins last week, WR A.J. Green had his first game of the 2018 season with 100 or more yards receiving, with 112 on six catches. It was his 32nd career game with 100 or more yards receiving, setting a new mark for most in team history. The previous mark of 31 had been established by former WR Chad Johnson (2001-10).

    Green enters the Steelers game with 26 receptions for 409 yards and five touchdowns, while WR Tyler Boyd enters the contest with 30 catches for 393 yards and two TDs. The pair currently are on pace this season to record receiving yardage totals of 1309 and 1258, respectively. If they both record 1000 or more yards receiving this season, it would be just the third time in team history that two receivers have done so in the same season. The other two instances were recorded by Johnson and former WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh, who did it together twice, in 2006 and ’07 (in ’06, Johnson had 1369 and Houshmandzadeh had 1081; in ’07, Johnson had 1440 and Houshmandzadeh had 1143).

    The series: The Steelers lead 62-35 overall and 30-19 as the visiting team. The series includes two postseason games, both Steelers wins in Wild Card round contests at Paul Brown Stadium, after the 2005 and ’15 seasons. The Bengals have played more games against the Steelers (97) than any other foe. Cleveland is second in that category at 89, and Tennessee (formerly Houston Oilers) is third at 75.

    Bengals-Steelers connections: Bengals Head Coach Marvin Lewis grew up in McDonald, Pa., near Pittsburgh. Lewis’ first NFL coaching job was with the Steelers as LBs coach from 1992-95 under head coach Bill Cowher. He also coached at the University of Pittsburgh from 1990-91 ... Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin was defensive backs coach for the University of Cincinnati from 1999-2000 ... Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger is from Findlay, Ohio (Findlay High School), and played at Miami (Ohio) University ... Bengals WR Tyler Boyd is from Clairton, Pa. (Clairton High School) and played at the University of Pittsburgh ... Steelers DT Cameron Heyward and LB Ryan Shazier (Reserve/PUP) played at Ohio State University ... Steelers LB L.J. Fort spent time on the Bengals practice squad in 2014 ...Bengals K Randy Bullock was with the Steelers in 2016 ... Steelers LBs Bud Dupree and Farrington Huguenin (practice squad) played at the University of Kentucky ... Steelers P Jordan Berry played at Eastern Kentucky University ... Steelers FB Roosevelt Nix is from Reynoldsburg, Ohio (Reynoldsburg High School) ... Bengals quarterbacks coach Alex Van Pelt is from Pittsburgh and played for the Steelers from 1989-92 ...Bengals linebackers coach Jim Haslett is from Pittsburgh, played at Indiana University of Pennsylvania, and coached for the Steelers from 1997-99 ...Bengals tight ends coach Jonathan Hayes grew up in South Fayette, Pa. and played TE for the Steelers from 1994-96 ... Bengals defensive coordinator Teryl Austin is from Sharon, Pa., played at the University of Pittsburgh and coached at Penn State University ... Bengals defensive assistant/assistant defensive line coach Matt Raich is from Monaca, Pa., played (1989-92) and coached (1993-94) at Westminster College, and coached at Robert Morris University (1996-98, 2000-02), Glenville State College (1999) and Duquesne University (2013). Raich was also on the Steelers’ coaching staff from 2003-06. ... Bengals offensive coordinator Bill Lazor is from Scranton, Pa. ... Bengals CB C.J. Goodwin (practice squad) entered the NFL as a college free agent signee of Pittsburgh in 2014, and was with the team through ’15 preseason. Goodwin is also from Wheeling, W.Va., and played at California (Pa.) University ... Bengals QB Christian Hackenberg (practice squad) and LB Brandon Bell (practice squad) played at Penn State University ... Steelers LB Keith Kelsey (Reserve/Injured) and WR Eli Rogers (Active/PUP) played at the University of Louisville ... Bengals strength and conditioning coach Chip Morton coached at Penn State from 1987-91 ... Steelers wide receivers coach Darryl Drake is from Louisville, Ky.
    Bengals’ O excels in red zone: The Bengals’ offense this season has scored TDs on 12 of its 17 trips to the red zone, good for an 88.2 percent rate (fifth in the NFL). Entering Game 5 vs. Miami, the Bengals led the NFL in red-zone TD percentage this season and had come away with points on an NFL-best 34 consecutive trips to the red zone (25 TDs, nine FGs) dating back to Game 9 of last season. But an INT on their first red-zone trip vs. Miami ended the streak, which was the longest by a Bengals team since 2005-06 (40 straight).
    A comeback for the record book: Cincinnati erased a 17-point deficit last week vs. Miami by scoring 27 unanswered points in the second half, including 24 in the fourth quarter, in a thrilling 27-17 come-from-behind victory. It was just the eighth time in Bengals history that the team rallied from a deficit of 17 or more points to win.

    Regular Season Game 6: Steelers at Bengals [PDF]

  10. #20
    New Chapter In Ancient Rivalry

    Geoff Hobson

    Jessie Bates is one of Carlos Dunlap's "rookie veterans."

    Defensive lineman Sam Hubbard, a Cincinnati guy and one of those cool kids Carlos Dunlap calls, “rookie veterans,” has already been to a Bengals-Steelers game at Paul Brown Stadium. But, like much of the Bengals’ current roster, it’s not exactly at the forefront of memory. After all, he was only 11 the night Steelers defensive end Kimo von Oelhoffen fell into the knee of Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer on just the second snap of the game.

    “I just remember how silent the crowd was after it happened. That’s the only memory I have,” Hubbard said Monday of that infamous 2005 Wild Card Game.
    But with the help of young players like Hubbard, it’s the memory of that Wild Card Game 10 years later that suddenly also seems to be fleeting in the Not For Long league as the Bengals prepare for Sunday’s game (1 p.m.-Cincinnati’s Channel 12; click here for tickets) at Paul Brown Stadium.

    A total of 35 players from last Sunday’s 53-man roster weren’t here for the Brawl in the Paul when running back Jeremy Hill fumbled the ball on Jan. 9, 2016 with a one-point lead and 1:23 from a postseason victory. But not only that, they are a 4-1 team that has carved out three crazy-quilted fourth-quarter comebacks this season with 30 players that began their NFL career after that 2015 season.

    “It’s different,” said Dunlap, the veteran left end a day after his sack-strip sealed the 27-17 win over the Dolphins to set up Hubbard’s fumble-return touchdown.

    “I think the world knows about Pittsburgh-Bengals football already. It’s hard to neglect with all the stuff that’s going on. But our focus in the locker room is guys have that single-minded focus. Next play. Next game. When we revamped the culture, that’s what the coaches instilled in us. To build it better. If you didn’t like the last play, make the next play the best play. That’s been the mantra for this season.”

    Head coach Marvin Lewis has revamped hearts and minds with a new-look coaching staff and a band of youngsters. The Green-Dalton Bengals may be 1-7 against the Steelers at PBS, but offensive coordinator Bill Lazor’s playbook is 0-0. Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger may be 14-2 at PBS, but first-year Bengals defensive coordinator Teryl Austin’s unit that has produced three touchdowns in his first five games is 0-0 against Big Ben. Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin may be 18-5 against Lewis, but he’s talking about “a September stench” that has his team 2-2-1 and trying to go from worst to first in the AFC North.

    “We’re the team to beat right now. Not them,” said cornerback Dre Kirkpatrick. “In previous years, OK, cool. I don’t think there’s a need for us to over-think this.”
    That’s why Kirkpatrick, one of five defensive starters in the Wild Card Game who’ll also start Sunday, likes the youthful makeup.

    “I definitely feel they get it, they understand the history between us two,” Kirkpatrick said. “But at the end of the day, it's kind of good that some of these guys haven't experienced it because we're trying to go in with clear minds, clear everything, just going out there and playing our game and not taking nothing that happened two or three years ago or last year and having that same mentality and taking that into the game.

    “We've got to be focused. We can't have any dumb penalties, any outbursts, anything like that. We've got to stay focused. We'll definitely work hard this week. It's Pittsburgh week. Everybody's going to be hyped up, ramped up. Practice is going to be ramped up. But so far it's just been calm here. It's just another game. I feel we've got the tools to do special things around here and they're just a team in the way for us.”

    That’s where Dunlap’s rookie veterans come in. They don’t have the baggage. They’ve tamed the fourth quarter so far. Like his guy Hubbard, a big-time college veteran of Ohio State that has shrugged his way into a key and versatile role as an offensive fullback, a right end in the base defense and a tackle in the nickel package.

    Or Tyler Boyd, a third-year wide receiver who knows the rivalry but not as a regular now on pace to catch more than 1,200 yards.
    Or rookie safety Jessie Bates, the 21-year-old second-round pick who sweats ice water. He’s became a favorite of, a web site already bannering him as one of the top safeties in the league.

    Tyler Boyd has some big catches against Pittsburgh, but now he's a regular leading the Bengals with 30 catches.

    “He has accrued 27 total tackles (8th among safeties) and two interceptions (T-2nd) while allowing a passer rating of just 58.8 on throws into his primary coverage,” PFF reported Monday. “Bates has been targeted five times, allowing four receptions for 38 yards, 36 of which came on one play, and among safeties who have been targeted at least five times, Bates’ 0.17 yards per coverage snap ranks fourth. Bates’ 83.9 grade for the season places him as the sixth highest-graded safety, and his coverage grade of 81.1 is good for fifth … It has only been five weeks, but Jessie Bates has looked like one of the top five safeties in the league when he is at the top of his game, impacting both the run game and passing game.”

    Austin isn’t going to go that far but, believe him, he loves those two interceptions that Bates has snagged off the Ravens’ Joe Flacco and the Dolphins’ Ryan Tannehill. Remember, one of the first things Austin did on the job is meet with veteran free-agent centerfielders with a history of picks. Better yet, he got the top-rated one in the draft.

    “For a young guy coming out playing basically playing every down from day one it’s a pretty daunting task. So far, knock on wood he’s done well,” Austin said. “I expect he’ll continue to get better as the year goes on. I’m happy where he is, he’s got a lot of room for growth and improvement. But as long as he’s tackling and getting better each week and intercepting the ball, we’re OK.”

    Kirkpatrick loves how he’s teamed with the veteran Shawn Williams, giving them the best of both worlds.

    “The guy's so smart. He's got a bent for the ball,” Kirkpatrick said. “He's not one to debate everything -- when somebody brings something to his attention, he checks it off and he tries to learn from it. I feel that's the most important thing. He's got a veteran in Shawn who's a leader in the secondary, and he's just learning from him the best he can.”

    That’s pretty much what the defensive line is saying about Hubbard.

    “The guy can block for a touchdown on offense or get that touchdown with a fumble and get it into the end zone,” Dunlap said. “Young guys, but I would say not immature or inexperienced. They’re ready.”

    If Hubbard hasn’t seen it, he’s heard it. Forget the PBS pall from early ’06 and he still knows all about rivalries.

    “Best rivalry in college football,” said the former Buckeye, who still can’t utter the word, “Michigan.”

    “The team from up north,” is how he says it.

    “Like everyone else in Cincinnati, I hate the Steelers,” Hubbard said. “I respect them as well.”

    Now it’s the kids’ turn.


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