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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by mullichicken25 View Post
    I don't entirely disagree with you, but this statement implies that Dalton's pre-Taylor NFL experience is irrelevant.
    Not at all. In fact, Dalton is a veteran with a fairly long history of playing at a higher level than he has under Taylor.

    I'm not suggesting Dalton be looked at as a fall guy but Taylor and his scheme are completely unproven. At some point he's got to show he's not talking out of his ass or making moves just to appear to be doing something.

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by JBandJoeyV View Post
    Oh I definitely think you can still evaluate him.

    Not necessarily on stats or wins but more so on decision making, ability to avoid pressure in and out of the pocket, ability to create plays, and maybe most importantly the ability to make the plays that are there and open to him (eg: not throwing the ball OB to a wide open WR).
    Agree with this. Will only add that the direct comparison to Dalton is both appropriate and unavoidable.

    And there's the rub because IMO if Finley doesn't very quickly play at a higher level than the worst version of Andy Dalton the NFL has ever seen...Zac Taylor is going to look like a perfect idiot.

  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by HOF View Post
    Agree with this. Will only add that the direct comparison to Dalton is both appropriate and unavoidable.

    And there's the rub because IMO if Finley doesn't very quickly play at a higher level than the worst version of Andy Dalton the NFL has ever seen...Zac Taylor is going to look like a perfect idiot.
    I agree. We can blame the OL all we want but this OL isn’t that much different then our OL last season and this is the worst our running game has ever looked and worst our QB has ever looked.

    While I didn’t expect Taylor to come in and turn this into a top 5 O with this miserable OL, I did at least expect him to be more creative when game planning and putting this O in a position to at least make lemonade out of these lemons. But that hasnt happened.

  4. #34
    I don't blame Andy for being upset - I haven't heard the interview but as they often do, the FO did fail him by letting good guys go, and making some hella bad draft picks. Add in some untimely injuries to key players, and you have a bad situation.

    Even with that, he hasn't played well - and Finley has a chance to be better. When I said he'd struggle, I didn't mean that it was him specifically... I mean anyone who was a rookie with no "real" snaps would. But I do think he has a chance to be more accurate, and move around the pocket better. And he's kinda cocky, which you want in a QB.

    It's not unprecedented that a mid-round QB (or later) can have success, any more than it is a high first-round guy not panning out - so let's see what they have.

  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by texbengal View Post
    When I said he'd struggle, I didn't mean that it was him specifically... I mean anyone who was a rookie with no "real" snaps would. But I do think he has a chance to be more accurate, and move around the pocket better. And he's kinda cocky, which you want in a QB.
    I think fans will be quick to forgive some rookie mistakes. But IMO Zac Taylor needs to quickly produce a QB who can look good playing in his system, in part because Finley wasn't inherited. He was hand picked and presumably groomed for this.

  6. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by HOF View Post
    I think fans will be quick to forgive some rookie mistakes. But IMO Zac Taylor needs to quickly produce a QB who can look good playing in his system, in part because Finley wasn't inherited. He was hand picked and presumably groomed for this.
    Sure... agree. I remember Zac gushing about how much he enjoyed "talking ball" (stupid term) with him on his visit. No doubt he's Zac's guy. Early returns were positive but it was scrub ball so let's see what he's got with the bright lights on.

  7. He was Taylor's guy, but he was also a 4th round pick.

    I'm not here to defend Taylor's system in any way, but if Finley is garbage it doesn't really tell us much of anything about it.

  8. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by mullichicken25 View Post
    He was Taylor's guy, but he was also a 4th round pick.

    I'm not here to defend Taylor's system in any way, but if Finley is garbage it doesn't really tell us much of anything about it.

    Agree to disagree.

    Taylor made the decision to make a change and he controls the timing. Finley has had half a season to watch and learn and he's got two weeks to prepare for Baltimore. Plus he gets to work with AJ Green.

  9. #39
    Last edited by Bengals1181; 10-31-2019 at 08:59 AM.

  10. #40
    Rookie QB Ryan Finley ready to prove himself as Bengals' starter

    6:00 AM ET

    • Ben BabyESPN Staff Writer



    CINCINNATI -- On Wednesday morning, Ryan Finley experienced a taste of what the rest of his rookie year will look like.

    The Cincinnati Bengals quarterback stepped out of the tunnel of Paul Brown Stadium and onto the field to lead the offense through a cool and rainy practice. For the first time since Cincinnati drafted him with a fourth-round pick in April, Finley was at the helm.

    This is what the offense will look like for the foreseeable future. One day earlier, Bengals coach Zac Taylor let the team know Finley will be the starting quarterback against the Baltimore Ravens on Nov. 10 (1 p.m. ET, CBS).

    The implications couldn’t be any clearer. Finley will have an opportunity to show the Bengals he can replace Dalton as the long-term starter. If he succeeds, that could alter the usage of their potential top-five pick in the upcoming draft.


    Finley is embracing the opportunity and Cincinnati’s week off ahead of his NFL debut.

    “Going into a bye week, that’s huge for me,” Finley said. “Just kind of a chance to get a fresh start. Zac is kind of preaching a new season, so that’s kind of the mindset. It’s kind of a fresh start.”

    Figuring out what the Bengals have in the former North Carolina State standout becomes one of the most important items on the agenda for Cincinnati (0-8), one of two winless teams in the NFL.

    Nine-year veteran Andy Dalton, who held down the top spot on the chart from 2011 until Tuesday, knows the team's future is now driving Taylor's decisions.

    “[Taylor] said he has to think about the future with the draft and we have to see what we have in Ryan,” Dalton said Wednesday. “That's what it came down to. It's been voiced to me I wasn't the reason for the way the season has gone.”

    The switch wasn’t easy for either quarterback to talk about. Dalton said he didn’t have any hard feelings toward Finley, who simply did what was asked since the Bengals drafted him. Finley said Dalton texted him with a vote of support, an act that meant a lot to the 24-year-old rookie.

    “Andy has been unbelievable to me,” Finley said. “He’s a really good dude. He’s a class act and he’s special to me. I look up to him a ton. I can’t imagine how hard this is for him.”

    Finley has been a pleasant surprise since arriving in Cincinnati. After a strong start to the preseason, he supplanted Jeff Driskel as the No. 2 quarterback on the depth chart. During the preseason, Finley completed 73.4% of his passes for 414 yards with three touchdowns and one interception.

    Finley’s tenure as a backup didn’t dull his competitive edge.

    Bengals wide receiver A.J. Green said Finley has been calling out plays, asking Green about what he’s looking at.


    “I'm like, ‘Ryan, I don’t really know what I got right now, I wasn’t out there,’” Green said. “But he’s going through the whole thing. It’s fun just being on the sideline with him and building that connection.”

    On Wednesday, Green participated in team drills for the first time since his injury. He caught a pass from Finley, a connection that could help the rookie quarterback as he adjusts to his starting role.

    Eleven days after Finley's first practice as QB1, he’ll again be on this field against the Ravens, this time with a chance to show what he can do as a starter.

    “It’ll be fun,” Finley said. “It’s part of the game, so it’s something that I just got to get thrown in there and I’ll figure it out. I got a lot of guys around me that know what they are doing. I feel confident about that.”

    https://www.espn.com/blog/cincinnati...engals-starter


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