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    Dalton Trade Scenarios

    If Dalton is to be traded, where could he land?

    Chicago
    Miami
    Jacksonville?
    Carolina?
    Chargers?


    Where else?

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    I wish they had handled him better during the season.

    There's a real argument for having him here to tutor Burrow...but that good will is likely mostly gone. With it, goes the leverage that the Bengals would have had with other teams that the argument for keeping him around might have given to some degree. The whole world knows he shouldn't stick around, now, pretty much as far as all sides see it.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by alleycat View Post
    I wish they had handled him better during the season.

    There's a real argument for having him here to tutor Burrow...but that good will is likely mostly gone. With it, goes the leverage that the Bengals would have had with other teams that the argument for keeping him around might have given to some degree. The whole world knows he shouldn't stick around, now, pretty much as far as all sides see it.
    I think he's way too expensive to stick around as a mentor. Plenty of old guys that can do that.

    I also don't think drafting his replacement would have gone over any better than benching him mid season. He'd be asking for a trade either way.

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Bengals1181 View Post
    If Dalton is to be traded, where could he land?

    Chicago
    Miami
    Jacksonville?
    Carolina?
    Chargers?


    Where else?
    Could see Jax - don't think Foles or Minshew are the answer there. They have a good D and some weapons on offense. Chargers, same deal.

    Not sure what Chicago's going to do with Mitch. Andy sees himself as a starter, and IMO he can be that again. Will be interesting to see if/which teams feel the same way... otherwise, he'll be a very highly-paid backup. Maybe if they don't get the offer they want, they wait for an injury and jack up the price. Who knows.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by alleycat View Post
    I wish they had handled him better during the season.
    Low point of the season for me.

    Unforced error. Self inflicted wound. Ham fisted. Botched.

  6. #6
    Course - that also paved the way to three much needed losses and pole position for Burrow.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Bengals1181 View Post
    If Dalton is to be traded, where could he land?

    Chicago
    Miami
    Jacksonville?
    Carolina?
    Chargers?


    Where else?
    Bears
    Chargers
    Bucs
    Panthers

  8. #8
    Wasn't sure where to put this, but here's an article in the Athletic about Andy. Hard not to like the guy. He was well-liked and he did a lot of "under the radar" things as a teammate.

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    A stand-up guy’: Positive memories mark Andy Dalton’s Bengals legacy


    By Jay Morrison Dec 27, 2019 42
    Andy Dalton, like everyone else in this world, doesn’t know exactly what the future holds. But Dalton and anyone who has paid any attention to the Bengals this season can be fairly certain what isn’t around the next corner – a 10th season as a member of the team he has led for his entire professional career.

    The Bengals are all but assured of drafting Heisman Trophy winner Joe Burrow to be their next quarterback, so Dalton’s time in stripes comes down to a final start Sunday at home against the Browns.

    Dalton still has another year left on his contract, but the idea of paying him $17 million to mentor his replacement doesn’t make much sense.

    He owns the Bengals career records for touchdown passes and completions, and there is an outside chance he could break the mark for attempts if he throws 54 on Sunday.

    The 32-year-old Dalton didn’t dodge questions during Thursday’s press conference about this being a final farewell, saying, “I understand the possibility of it. We’ll have to wait and see once the season’s over and see what happens, but I definitely understand the possibility of that.”

    But he wasn’t about to do the whole reflection, Memory Lane thing.

    So I decided to take a tour trip around the locker room, hallways and other corners of Paul Brown Stadium to ask those around the organization for some of their favorite moments, plays, conversations or other memories of Dalton’s first nine years in Cincinnati before he heads out to try to spin one more:

    John Ross, wide receiver
    “After my first bad game, like real bad game, when we played against Carolina, just my head wasn’t in it. I started messing up all over the place. Being young, not being ready and not understanding, I put Andy in some bad situations. After the game, he sent a message that said, ‘Come talk to me whenever. I know what you’re going through. Just relax.’ It was that same night. I laid down for a little bit and when I woke up I had the message from him – and A.J. (Green). Andy just basically was saying he was there for me and telling me not to worry about anything and just giving me advice on how to get past moments like that.

    “I thought he was a stand-up guy when I first got drafted and his message to me was sincere. But I knew he was really a stand-up guy when I got that message. Because really, I made him look really bad that game. I remember it vividly. For him to reach out to me and help get me back on my feet and get me back right mentally meant a lot to me. I’ll forever be grateful for that situation. And moving forward, he’s always been there. I’ve been over to his house for game nights and stuff like that. I’ve had some of my most fun being around him and his wife and his kids.”

    Zac Taylor, head coach
    “Right off the bat, just going to his banquet for his charity and seeing the people he really affects. He and JJ both. On a daily basis. It tells you exactly what type of person you are dealing with. It’s not fake. You can tell there is a lot of time and energy that goes in on their behalf to take care of people that can’t take care of themselves. That right away tells you.”

    Taylor had more to add.

    “After losses, he comes up in my office. On Sunday night. He knows I’m sitting at my desk, just staring at my desk for a minute, however long it is. He’ll knock on the door and come in. We are on the same page, why things happen. Just kind of talk through it a little bit. If only we could have done this a little better. Or this had gone differently. It’s kind of similar to when you are talking to a player, but when you are talking to someone who is on your wavelength of how something just unfolded.”

    How often did that happen?

    “Three or four times. After he just went through the battle, and we know. There’s a lot of things you don’t even have to say.”

    A.J. Green, wide receiver
    “I think a lot of it is just coming in together, playing that first game with him and then he got hurt, and then my second game with him I had first my 100-yard game. For us to come in together and have this success together, it’s been great. I don’t feel like a lot of people had high expectations for us coming in, and to do what we did leading up to this point was unbelievable. It’s very rare that you come in and have a lot of success like we did. It sucks that I couldn’t be out there this year. That’s the sucky part about it. Everything that’s gone on, I feel like if I was out there it would have been a little different. It sucks for me to go out this way, and we don’t know what’s going to happen next year for him or I. It’s tough.

    “When we beat the Steelers there in ’12, I ran a bench route and put us in field-goal range and we won the game. That was the first time we had beat the Steelers in a while. Our bond is more than football. We’re going to be friends no matter what happens the rest of our careers. That’s the good thing about it.”

    Darrin Simmons, special teams coordinator
    “The play I most remember would be the one against Tennessee when he caught the touchdown pass from Mo (Sanu), the throwback. It was unusual and he made a good play. Anytime you’re a quarterback and get a chance to catch a touchdown, it’s a pretty big deal.

    “The moment I’ll remember was this season. Probably the toughest point he’s had in his career when they benched Andy and named Ryan (Finley) the starter. Andy came up to the front of the room in the team meeting and told everybody, ‘Hey, I’m in full support of Ryan. Do I agree with this? No. But I’m going to do whatever I can do to help Ryan. I’m still myself. You don’t have to act different around me. I’m the same guy.’ I think that was a big deal for him to stand up and give Ryan that support like that in front of the team. It took a lot of courage. It took a lot of guts. Not a lot of people would do that. Some guys would be pissed off, but he was not. He was just the opposite. I think Andy probably got to Zac before the meeting and said, ‘I want to stand up and say something.’ I don’t think a lot of guys would’ve handled it the same way. It was pretty impressive.”


    Andy Dalton catches a pass from wide receiver Mohamed Sanu against the Titans in a 2014 game. Dalton slipped away from cornerback Blidi Wreh-Wilson and ran in for a touchdown. (Darron Cummings / Associated Press)
    Clayton Fejedelem, safety
    “He always puts others before himself, and he’s always been that way. I mean shoot, just talking to his character, when they chose to sit him down, I’ll always remember how he came into the meeting room and said, ‘It is what it is. It sucks. But I’m going to be here. I’m still going to be the same guy. If you need me for anything, I’m here.’ It just speaks volumes about his character. He’s a great guy. He said he wanted to address the elephant in the room and said, ‘I’m the same guy. Don’t tiptoe around me.’ You respect something like that.”

    Auden Tate, wide receiver
    “For me, it would be when I took that hit in the Oakland game. I went to the hospital and then got a police escort back to the airport and got there right before they left. They were just getting on the plane and I was in my scrubs and neck brace. Once we were on the plane, I was in the regular seats in the back and Andy and all the top dogs are in the front in first class. He came back and got me and was like, ‘I’d rather let you sit up there.’ For him to not only offer that but to check on me and ask if I needed help with my bags, that really meant something and will always stick with me. For him to give up that seat, I mean it was my neck, it wasn’t my legs or anything. I was good. That’s what I kept telling him at first, like, ‘Nah, I’m good. I’m good.’ But he kept insisting and I was like, ‘Well, you told me too many times, so OK.'”

    Jessie Bates, safety
    “Probably the best thing, and it’s not really football-related, but when Tate got hurt against the Raiders and left on the stretcher. He was in a neck brace, and I remember Andy had a first-class seat and Tate, being a young guy, he was sitting in the back of the plane with me. And Andy offered his first-class seat for Tate to go up there and be comfortable. That explains who Andy is as a man. It wasn’t surprising to me because I’ve seen what he stands for. He had been benched earlier in the season and a lot of things weren’t going his way this year. He wasn’t even playing against the Raiders and he still had the mindset of team first and being a good guy and letting Tate sit in first class. That explains who Andy is.

    “So he’s in the back with us. He was sitting next to Sam (Hubbard) and was going over tape with us. And Sam and I were like, ‘We really respect you.’ That’s the type of dudes you need in the locker room if you want to be successful.”

    Giovani Bernard, running back
    “Obviously, he’s a great player, but the biggest thing with him is how huge a lot of the stuff he does off the field. Not just what he does for this team and this organization, but his foundation. That’s done so much for the kids in the Cincinnati area. And obviously it brings a lot of help for those people. That’s the biggest thing that stands out to me, his off-the-field stuff.”

    Alex Erickson, wide receiver
    “I’ll always remember my first OTAs. I was going with the 2s and I ran this route and I came back to where the wide receivers were and Andy came over and said, ‘Hey, this is how we’ve been running this play. This is how you should run that route.’ It just stood out to me. Here was a Pro Bowl quarterback and I was just an undrafted free-agent rookie wide receiver. And for him to take the time to come up to me and correct me and point out a way I could do something better to help me become a better player, I think says a lot about the type of guy he is. He didn’t have to do that. It was a cool moment.”

    Dan Hoard, radio play-by-play announcer
    “My favorite memory of Andy involves a photograph. What I admire about him the most and appreciate about Andy the most is how great he is with fans. I’m guessing that there has never been a Cincinnati sports figure who has taken more selfies with fans than he has. Probably because the selfie kind of became popular during his Bengals career, and the fact that his hair is so distinctive made him a very popular selfie target. But if you look at the end of those training camp practices when guys sign autographs, he always stays until the very end, signs everybody’s autograph, poses for every picture and I think he always understood how much that can mean to a person.

    “And I have a personal story along those lines. A friend of mine from Charlotte reached out to me once to say that there was a Bengals fan in his neighborhood, a young man who was confined to a wheelchair, and he asked me if I could send him some sort of Bengals memorabilia. So I got a football and asked Andy to sign it and sent it to the young man. His name is Bryson Foster. And my friend sent me back a picture of Bryson after they gave him the ball, and it’s the best, happy-to-receive-somebody’s-autograph photograph you will ever see in your life. He is just beaming with joy and surprise simultaneously. So after I got that picture, I showed it to Andy, and he was so excited to see it and so thankful that I shared it with him. That really underscores how much he gets that whole aspect of being a professional athlete.”


    Charlotte native and Bengals fan Bryson Foster reacts to receiving an autographed football from Bengals quarterback Andy Dalton. (Provided photo)
    Tyler Eifert, tight end
    “What I’ll remember most is just the run we made early in the year in ’15. His confidence during that time, even when we would get down, he’d come tell everybody how we’re going to win the game. We’re going to find a way. That stretch right there was pretty fun and pretty memorable with him. He just really took charge of the offense and willed us to a bunch of wins.”

    Trey Hopkins, center
    “My favorite memory with Andy was last year in the Atlanta game. Because I think it epitomized his leadership. He’s always a ‘believe-it’ kind of guy. And you can always look at him in the huddle and tell he has complete confidence in the play that’s been called and his execution of it and in the guys around him to execute, whether the game’s been going that way the whole time or not. That Atlanta game was the epitome, not just because it was the most fun and obviously because we came out on top, but just because the pressure was mounting throughout that whole game. We were going back and forth with Atlanta. He never flinched once. And we got the ball that last drive and the confidence he had telling us, ‘We’re going to win this. We’re going to take this ball down and we’re going to score and we’re going to win this thing.’ And then it happened. That’s the kind of leader he’s been. I just remember that drive being crazy. That’s probably my favorite NFL memory to this day, to be honest.”


    Andy Dalton takes a selfie with a group of fans following a training camp practice in 2018. (Jay Morrison / The Athletic)
    Paul Dehner Jr., The Athletic sportswriter
    “I know I’m the only one that can tell this story and it’s one I’ll never forget. During the 2015 (Major League Baseball) All-Star Game I was helping out with The Enquirer’s coverage and landed the gig of the Legends and Celebrity Softball Game on Sunday night.

    “Notoriously, this was when Andy Dalton was introduced before and during the game, boos rained down from the home crowd. Dalton had come off a string of four straight playoff berths, but the city was frustrated with the first-round losses. Dalton bore the brunt of it in this seemingly relaxed setting.

    “The moment the first boos happened, I dropped my head toward the ground in the press box knowing I’d have to talk to him about it after the game. So, I waited in the tunnel and eventually, Dalton came down. I pointed out I’d have to ask about this and Dalton kind of smirked and politely answered the question, stating that everybody has an opinion, it’s part of the deal and that he has lots of support out there.

    “That reaction could have gone a lot of different ways. It was the first time I had an inside look at his refusal to take the low road. What always stood out to me was how he focused so much on the positivity of those that were cheering for him. He went on to point out everyone was cheering for him when he hit two home runs later during the game, but never rubbed it in.

    “Fitting, he ended up having his breakout season the next year in 2015. It was the perfect example of how he never let the negativity that was out there affect him or the way he wanted to go about his life in this city despite what was often thrown his way.”


    Andy Dalton in a home run trot during the 2015 All-Star Legends & Celebrity Softball game. (John Minchillo / Associated Press)
    C.J. Uzomah, tight end
    “I enjoyed going to his birthday two years ago, his 30th. He had a bunch of high school friends and college friends come into town and then obviously a bunch of guys from the team. We all hung out, ate dinner, had some drinks. He had somebody come in – well, it was JJ’s idea. She arranged this whole thing. But somebody he knew from Texas came in and was playing live music for us and it was just an awesome time hanging out.

    “It was at Boca. It wasn’t a surprise party, but it was a surprise with how many people that were there. I don’t think he was expecting that for sure. It’s cool to be able to meet guys’ friends from back home. I know most of my friends here haven’t really met my college or high school guys. So it’s cool to see them interact with one another. That was something that really resonates in my mind with Andy, just that type of fellowship outside of football.”

    Dave Lapham, radio analyst
    “In the postgame, the worst thing in the world is to have to go to a guy when he has a tough game and ask him a couple of questions about it. It’s live and it’s only five minutes after they come off the field. Sometimes it can be a brutal scenario. But multiple times he has been a pro’s pro. That’s what I’ll remember most about Andy. He never turned it down. He knew everyone’s got a job to do and it’s not going to be pleasant, but he’ll do it.

    “The other thing is, I’ve been fortunate enough to have him ask me to emcee his fundraiser for the Andy Dalton Foundation, the dinner. Seeing the way he integrated himself with people and talked to people, they looked at him like they were looking at some kind of god or something. He was just tremendously levelheaded. He gave everybody every ounce of time and energy that he had. That’s when you find out about guys, when the camera’s not on them. In that situation, no microphones, no cameras, it’s just real world and in a setting that’s a lot different. And he was a superstar. Exactly what most people would expect. He was as good as I’ve seen at one of those types of events, in that type of environment.”

    Billy Price, offensive lineman
    “Well, my first impression when I met him was after I got drafted and went out to dinner with him and his wife. I was kind of frugal with money then, more than I am now, and he goes, ‘You’re going to spend some of that money.’ And I’m like, ‘No, nah, no I’m not.’ And he said, ‘No, you’re going to spend some it.’ And then my first offseason I got to enjoy it and go on trips and stuff and the first thing he said to me when we came back was, ‘I told you that you were going to spend some of that money.’

    “So that was kind of a funny, lighthearted moment. But competitively, you really got to see the competitor he was when we played the Ravens and I got hurt. We jumped out 21-0, and you could see this fire in his eyes. It was something really admirable. And then this past weekend was something I’ve never seen anything like it, as far as coming back, leading us back, and just the passion he had for it. That’s Andy. That’s our QB1.”

    Randy Bullock, kicker
    “Well, I mean that comeback we just had. That was pretty impressive. I don’t know if anybody has scored that many points that quickly in the history of the game. That’s the biggest thing that sticks out in my mind, and just what a leader he is, too. He’s an all-around first-class person, player, everything. That’s how he’s handled everything throughout his time here.”

  9. #9
    That Tate story, damn. The benching story may be even more impressive.

  10. #10
    There is no doubt that as a person Andy is one of the top guys on this team since Anthony. I just wish his skill consistently was at the same level, because I really like him.

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